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Old 02-24-2009, 02:42 PM
 
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WRONG. Since 1935, the only people eligible to receive "entitlements" are those who enroll into national socialism.

And you confuse collective ownership with EXCLUSIVE ownership.

Any "private enterprise" that fails to pay its socialist taxes is CONFISCATED for past tax bills.
Pursuant to the 5th amendment, if just compensation was not paid, it was not private property.

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Any enterprise that doesn't pay its bills is subject to confiscation. I guess the repo man is a hero to Marx.

Taxation has existed since the dawn of civilization. Marx lived in the 19th century. Taxes are not equivalent to socialism, but go ahead and repeat it if you want.

Name the enterpises that are collectively owned.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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I knew a disabled vet (bad back) who worked for the Federal gov't who was a complete jerk to his superiors b/c he knew he couldn't get fired. He told me as much. Enuff said.
I know a DMV clerk who is the nicest person you could meet. 'Nuff said.

I met a guy once...

C'mon.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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Ever been to Wal-Mart? McDonalds? The phone company, Best Buy, Safeway, 7-Eleven, a baseball game, the gym, a hotel, etc., etc? These are all private enterprises staffed by "a bunch of clerks."
yes and those clerks are way more civil to costomors. they know to be nice to costomers because in the end its us, the consumers who pay their salary. unlike the govt employees ho couild care less about the citizen.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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"costomer service", kids, ever heard the term? it means that the person you are SERVING is the person who directly effects your income.
a government does not have costomer service. you kknow why? because you are FORCED to pay them for their "services" weather you need them or not, weather they do their job well or not. the citizen is nothing but a slave to them who works for them pays taxes to them so that they can run their uneffective government beurocracy.
unlike a clerk working for a business who's objective if to work for you so that you will pay them to do the work.
notice that in business there is no slavery. no one forces these clerks to work for you, but in government there is a form of slavery, where you are forced to work for them and pay taxes to them, so that their unproductive "business" can keep running
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:01 PM
 
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"According to the History of the Income Tax in our almanac, the federal income tax was first enacted in 1862 to support the Union's Civil War effort. It was eliminated in 1872, revived in 1894, then declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court the following year. In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system."

No nvxplorer, federal income taxes are not part of our nation. See the unconstitutional ruling by the Supreme Court. They would never have existed if the people knew the source of evil that it has become. There is no reason whatsoever for the Federal Regime to impose income taxes in a free society other than to redistribute wealth. If we didn't have the redistribution notion taxes could be collected in many other ways.

There is also no need whatsoever for the federal government to know how much any citizen earns. If taxes were truly used for the good of all, then there is no reason to differentiate between individuals. Taxation in this nation is only used as a hammer to strike at those who are deemed "unworthy" to possess the spoils of their endeavors. And this hammer has not been used for anything that is not sinister in nearly 100 years.

Every conceivable "good" that the federal regime has done to, er rather "for", the people over the last hundred years should have been left to the States. Then again States were exterminated by Lincoln before the federal income tax.

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Old 02-24-2009, 07:39 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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"costomer service", kids, ever heard the term? it means that the person you are SERVING is the person who directly effects your income.
a government does not have costomer service. you kknow why? because you are FORCED to pay them for their "services" weather you need them or not, weather they do their job well or not. the citizen is nothing but a slave to them who works for them pays taxes to them so that they can run their uneffective government beurocracy.
unlike a clerk working for a business who's objective if to work for you so that you will pay them to do the work.
notice that in business there is no slavery. no one forces these clerks to work for you, but in government there is a form of slavery, where you are forced to work for them and pay taxes to them, so that their unproductive "business" can keep running
Exactly! This is exactly my conclusion after 6 years of working for a governmental agency. Customer service was practically non-existent and the waste I observed in the two tiny departments I worked would shock the most ardent government-lovin' liberal.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
WRONG. Since 1935, the only people eligible to receive "entitlements" are those who enroll into national socialism.

And you confuse collective ownership with EXCLUSIVE ownership.

Any "private enterprise" that fails to pay its socialist taxes is CONFISCATED for past tax bills.
Pursuant to the 5th amendment, if just compensation was not paid, it was not private property.

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Any enterprise that doesn't pay its bills is subject to confiscation. I guess the repo man is a hero to Marx.
The original point was in reference to failure to pay socialist ad valorem taxes on estate (real and personal property), not a reference to collateral property.

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Taxation has existed since the dawn of civilization. Marx lived in the 19th century. Taxes are not equivalent to socialism, but go ahead and repeat it if you want.
And your point fails to rebut the original assertion that PRIVATE PROPERTY is not a class of property subject to taxation.

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Name the enterpises that are collectively owned.
Actually, can you name any enterprises that are private property, absolutely owned by an individual, and protected from being taken for public use?

Since 1935, few, if any American businesses qualify as private property / capitalism.

"PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217

"... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
Fifth Amendment, USCON.

CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - Webster's Dictionary

If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
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