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Socializing medicine is not the cure for our health care system. Education and fundamental change to our lives styles are the key.
We need to all make an effort at our own health. We wash our car, paint our house, but we don't care what we put in our mouths, we don't care to exercise. We get fat, then we get high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, joint problems. If we all get off our rears the health care dilemma will go away.
But our society is all about consumption and nothing is ever said about discipline and personal sacrifice. It's too hard to go out for a walk.
One of the largest problems with our system and it's funding is the circumventing of health issues that would typically bring you to your maker. Couple that with technology increasing the quality of surgeries along with the higher cost of that equipment and you have an economic disaster.
Last edited by BigJon3475; 03-01-2009 at 01:14 PM..
well, Obama has announced his budget, and the Government is going to spend even more on healthcare. He said his aim is to provide every single American with health coverage. What do you think?
I really want it to happen but it won't. Obama has pretty much set himself on an incremental approach where he tinkers at the edges instead of committing himself to real reform. Sadly, he's also appointed several "centrist" people who are firmly in the camp of big pharma and big insurance companies so don't expect much out of them.
When the Constitution was written, there were 4 million people in the U.S. Most were farmers, and they relied on traditional medicines and the occasional country doctor. It's absurd to make statements about the meaning of the Constitution and its intent from an ahistorical perspective. I don't think the government should provide "from cradle to grave." I do think the government should ensure that its citizens have access to health care without the requirement that they become impoverished or lose their homes and all worldly possessions before gaining access to that health care--which is the current state of affairs. Health insurance costs, on average, $1200-1500/month for a family of four. Workers who work for businesses that do not offer health care insurance are usually workers who make the minimum wage or not much more. It's class warfare to disenfranchise these workers. To argue that all Americans should not have access to affordable health care is to argue that only Americans with means should have access to health care. THAT is not capitalism, and neither is it democracy. THAT is government for the wealthy.
But lots of conservatives will tell you they much prefer keeping our medical system the way it is or health care thru bankrupcy when necessary. That way the conservatives don't mind people declaring bankruptcy on huge medical bills and thereby causing their own medical costs to go up as long as it means the government stays out of trying to provide universal health care.
Socializing medicine is not the cure for our health care system. Education and fundamental change to our lives styles are the key.
We need to all make an effort at our own health. We wash our car, paint our house, but we don't care what we put in our mouths, we don't care to exercise. We get fat, then we get high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, joint problems. If we all get off our rears the health care dilemma will go away.
But our society is all about consumption and nothing is ever said about discipline and personal sacrifice. It's too hard to go out for a walk.
You must be very young, or very naive, if you think that a "healthy lifestyle" is going to protect you from the ravages of disease. It's your genes, your exposures, bad karma, plus the lifestyle thing.
But lots of conservatives will tell you they much prefer keeping our medical system the way it is or health care thru bankrupcy when necessary. That way the conservatives don't mind people declaring bankruptcy on huge medical bills and thereby causing their own medical costs to go up as long as it means the government stays out of trying to provide universal health care.
Well yeah, they don't mind other people going bankrupt. When it happens to them, different story.
You must be very young, or very naive, if you think that a "healthy lifestyle" is going to protect you from the ravages of disease. It's your genes, your exposures, bad karma, plus the lifestyle thing.
You are wrong. I am in this field. Much of our health care problems are brought on by our own habits. Obesity is not a figment of my imagination. Get rid of obesity, improve our diet, and exercise a bit and most of the most common and expensive chronic conditions will be reduced. The incidence of hypertension, diabetes, stroke, cancer, joint problems have a clear and direct correlation to obesity.
You are wrong. I am in this field. Much of our health care problems are brought on by our own habits. Obesity is not a figment of my imagination. Get rid of obesity, improve our diet, and exercise a bit and most of the most common and expensive chronic conditions will be reduced. The incidence of hypertension, diabetes, stroke, cancer, joint problems have a clear and direct correlation to obesity.
Just what field are you in that you believe this? Most of the above diseases are multifactorial, and the relationship to obesity is not not clear or direct.
Not universal because there will not be one payer or universal coverage.
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