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Old 03-13-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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There are 700,000 physicians in the US, There are 120,000 accidental deaths by physicians per year, Accidental deaths per physicisan= 0.171. Statistics courtesy of US Dept of Health and Human Services

There are 80,000,000 (million) gun owners in the US, There are 1500 accidental gun deaths per year. Accidental deaths per gun owner= 0.000188 Statistics courtesy of the FBI

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Guns don't kill people, people do
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The House will not pass the Senate Bill.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The House will not pass the Senate Bill.
But, what if they do????
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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There are 700,000 physicians in the US, There are 120,000 accidental deaths by physicians per year, Accidental deaths per physicisan= 0.171. Statistics courtesy of US Dept of Health and Human Services

There are 80,000,000 (million) gun owners in the US, There are 1500 accidental gun deaths per year. Accidental deaths per gun owner= 0.000188 Statistics courtesy of the FBI

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Guns don't kill people, people do
Diet, Lifestyle are far more dangerous than a loaded firearm

by Charlie Reese
Published in The Orlando Sentinel on June 24, 1999

Your risk of being murdered is one in 16,666. Actually, for most Americans, it is much less than that. The majority of American homicides involve one low-life killing another low-life.

Thus, if you stay out of the drug business, which most Americans do, and if you don't hang out with low-lifes or foolishly wander into bad neighborhoods, your chances of becoming a homicide victim are very small.

In short, the danger of firearms is greatly exaggerated by politicians and press alike. In 1997, for example, 15,551 Americans were killed by firearms, compared with 28,400 who died in their homes as a result of accidents, only 1,000 of which involved firearms. Total deaths from firearms accidents were 1,500. Compare that with the 43,200 killed in vehicle accidents, the 14,900 who died in falls, the 8,600 who were killed by accidental poisoning, the 4,000 who drowned, the 3,700 who died in fires, and the 3,300 who died from the ingestion of food or some other object.

In other words, eating poses more than twice the risk of a gun in causing an accidental death.

In 1997, whereas homicides with a gun took 15,551 lives and 1,500 died from firearms accidents, 88,000 died from pneumonia and flu, 91,000 from accidents (I've subtracted the 1,500 firearms accidents), 110,000 from lung diseases, 159,000 from strokes, 537,000 from cancer and 725,000 from heart disease.

Deaths related to firearms -- including murder, accidents and suicides -- amount to a hair more than 1 percent of the annual deaths in the United States. Yet both politicians and press distort and exaggerate the danger of firearms to the point of hysteria.

If this two-headed, demagogic monster would devote half of the energy to cancer and heart disease that it devotes to firearms, far more lives might be saved. Your diet and lifestyle are far more dangerous than a loaded firearm in terms of the likelihood of your being done in.

The two biggest threats to the future of American self-government are an irresponsible press and demagogues in public office. If we cannot discuss a public issue without being subjected to a totalitarian-style propaganda campaign, then we cannot really govern ourselves.

I wanted to put firearms deaths into perspective so that you can realize that you are being subjected to a deliberate propaganda campaign.

If the politicians and the press were really interested in crime, then they would face the race factor in crime, but they both are scared to address it. The race factor, simply stated, is a hugely disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by blacks. That is not to say that race causes the crime; I'm merely pointing out that a disproportionate amount of the violent crime is being committed by blacks.

For example, I happened to have an analysis of the homicides in Chicago in 1991 performed by the Chicago Police Department. There were 927 homicides. Of the offenders arrested, 702 were black; three were black Hispanic; 128 were white Hispanic; and only 51 were white. Only 38 of the victims were white. Clearly, Chicago's homicide problem that year was not uniformly distributed but localized among blacks and Hispanics. Few, by the way, invovled drugs.

To back up what I stated about low-lifes, 61 percent of victims and 77 percent of the offenders had prior criminal offenses on their records.

So, don't worry too much about being murdered, but be careful in that supermarket, restaurant and your own kitchen. As for a keeping a firearm in the home, it's safer than a car in the driveway or a swimming pool in the back yard. [Posted 06/23/1999 7:09 PM EST]
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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But, what if they do????
If and buts. The bill will not get to the House floor in its current form. The decision has been made by the House leadership.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:34 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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If the right to firearms ownership in it's proper form is restored to American citizens inside the dictatorial zone of DC there MAY be hope for this country yet. It would serve to prove to the Feds and the ones who worship at the alter of governmental nannyism that there are still folks in this country with the sand enough to defend themselves from the bad guys and don't need a buch of pansy politicians calling the shots (literally) for them. It's really odd how the same folks who scraem the loudest about government control over free speech, privacy, search and siezure, right to assemble et al, are the same ones who want us to TRUST the government with all the guns. Kind of counter productive ain't it?
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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We think the views of some of our brethren from less settled parts of the country are quaint.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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There goes the thread.
I'm out of here , rlchurch will keep this going forever.
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Old 03-14-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Congratulations to the largest lobbyist group in American politics.


And my condolences to those who will lose their lives as a result.
Exactly.
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Congratulations to the largest lobbyist group in American politics.


And my condolences to those who will lose their lives as a result.
sending condolences to criminals that wish others harm, that might end up learning what it is like to be on the other end of a 9mm?

I say congratulations to the people who wish to protect themselves and their familys from the scum of the earth.
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