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Old 03-15-2009, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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New Orleans and Richmond might jive with that statement. DC has traditionally had a good deal of crime because it has a lot of ghettos with a perpetual drug turf war and a very, very inept police force.


While I see what you are getting at, you would be shocked to learn that the vast majority of people in DC agree with the gun restrictions. I realize you find that insane and unfathomable, but most DC residents do not see themselves as victimized. Its a consensus thing.

Your points re rights have their merits and I suspect they will win out in end. But let's be realistic. The average Washingtonian is not going to march into the slums like Gary Cooper and confront the drug gangs. Nor would you.
well, then we will see no change then. If the majority do not want guns, they dont have to have them. The second amendment does not require everyone to own a gun, but it does give the choice to own one or not. If the majority do not wan them, then they do not have to have one. The minority in D.C. that do want one for self protection well... they will get one.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Pour yourself a cold one and review the 21st Amendment of the US Constitution. And then be thankful I do not introduce drug legalization as an analogy.


And sometimes those folks bring their guns with them. Sorry, but I do not see how drinking a few beers and throwing a punch is in the same universe as pulling out a gun and blowing someone's head off.




No, it seems high schools and places of employment are where the psychos excercising their civil rights are to be found.
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Your concern for civil rights is admirable TinKnocker and I say that without irony. Since we are talking about Washington, DC, I expect you to support the good people there in the quest to achieve voting representation in Congress. Voting is a civl right, no? Should not people whom are taxed be fairly represented? I suspect we will get you signed up for the cause. Unless all of this civil rights talk is just a smoke screen.
I think you need to look closer at the place that these criminals are committing the crimes, they are all labeled as "GUN FREE ZONES" If there was any indication to the criminal that they would be stopped by law abiding citizenry with firearms, they might think twice about committing the crime, or in the worst case scenario, civilians that are practicing their rights will put an end to it before more people are injured or killed.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I think you need to look closer at the place that these criminals are committing the crimes, they are all labeled as "GUN FREE ZONES" If there was any indication to the criminal that they would be stopped by law abiding citizenry with firearms, they might think twice about committing the crime, or in the worst case scenario, civilians that are practicing their rights will put an end to it before more people are injured or killed.
Ah yess, "Gun Free" often times is FAR from "Violence Free". The lack of guns is often the prime motive for a violent perpetrator to pick a specific spot for a killing spree. "Gun Free" zones proudly declare themselves as if this simple fact makes the areas immune from violence, when in fact, it makes it a target.
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