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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Repubocrat
One fundamental problem with your Liberal idea is the fact that once the US withdraws, Iraq will go back to total chaos. If you are a terrorist and Obama announces that he will pull out by a certain a date, all you need to do is sit around and wait, once the troops are OUT, terrorists are free to do whatever they want. Not a very smart idea in my opinion!
Iraq has a government and an Army. Policing Iraq is not our job. Quite frankly most of us don't give a Sunni what happens there anymore. It is not our problem. We handed them democracy- it is up to them to make it work.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by MovingForward
Obama never said, during the campaign, that he would bring them home immediately. He said he would bring all combat troops home 16 months after he was inaugurated, if he won. Instead, it's 19 months. Does that make him a liar?
The 35,000-50,000 troops that will remain after that, until 2011, is part of an agreement that Bush signed with the Iraqi government.
If they are all gone by 2011, I will be happy with that. I would like to be gone now but I will trust our President on this.
Iraq has a government and an Army. Policing Iraq is not our job. Quite frankly most of us don't give a Sunni what happens there anymore. It is not our problem. We handed them democracy- it is up to them to make it work.
We 'handed' them 'democracy' via 'shock and awe' - not the best way to do it.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by socal4now
Doesnt that mean Obama did nothing but follow the withdrawl plan Bush had already in place? Of course it does which any informed person knew already but meanwhile we watch Obama play politics as usual by claiming he did it. This guy is begining to make Slick willy look like an amateur. Example... saying there is pork or earmarks in this bill depends on what the definition of (is is) or earmarks/pork is.
The withdrawl plan was not Bush's. Bush wanted a permanent presence there. It was the Iraqi government's plan.
Remove ALL US troops from Iraq and Afganistan, and use the money and manpower in the US. Stop occupying other countries, stop meddling and stop bombing them.
We still have troops in every country we've ever fought a war in.
Get over it. There's a point where ideology has to give way to reality.
It's smart, though, to force the Iraqis' hand to stand on their own two feet. For all the talk of "personal responsibility", conservatives certainly seemed fine spending billions to support Iraq.
The withdrawl plan was not Bush's. Bush wanted a permanent presence there. It was the Iraqi government's plan.
Don't tell anyone, but we will always have boots on Iraqi soil.
Why you ask?
IRAN.
Campaign rhetoric is always trumped by morning intelligence briefings.
Obamanation got his eyes opened the first day he saw the real world of the Middle East and Russia.
Did i say Russia.... Yeh. Those ole' boys aren't going away, they are positioning to take the south and their real good at it, look how they kicked our assessts out of Kyrghyztan.
Remove ALL US troops from Iraq and Afganistan, and use the money and manpower in the US. Stop occupying other countries, stop meddling and stop bombing them.
I actually agree with you. Obama should just do what he promised and bring everyone home from Iraq. Leaving 50,000 serves no purpose but the possibility of more flag draped coffins on TV. It is too bad he does not have the guts to do what he promised. I will go even further and say that what his is doing is really dishonest and chicken-*&^*. I can't imagine how stupid Obama supporters can think 50,000 troops left in Iraq means we have ended our occupation. What do these bozos think? As long as we have 50,000 troops in Iraq we are at war.
I actually agree with you. Obama should just do what he promised and bring everyone home from Iraq. Leaving 50,000 serves no purpose but the possibility of more flag draped coffins on TV. It is too bad he does not have the guts to do what he promised. I will go even further and say that what his is doing is really dishonest and chicken-*&^*. I can't imagine how stupid Obama supporters can think 50,000 troops left in Iraq means we have ended our occupation. What do these bozos think? As long as we have 50,000 troops in Iraq we are at war.
You think Politicians keep their promises?
Have you seen the debates and rallys where he talked against huge deficits?
Or not raising taxes on anyone but those that make 250k.
Guess what, if you own a house you will no longer be able to deduct the mortgage interest.... is that a tax break or a tax increase?
I could go on, but it's to easy to burn lying politicians... i need something more challenging.
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