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Old 02-28-2009, 11:12 PM
 
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I did not vote for the man because he failed to release his school records (colleges).
Let me guess... he became the first black president of the Harvard Law Review because he's black


http://themediareport.com/jan2007/obama_lat_012707.jpg (broken link)
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You didn't say anything racist (weird to see a republican putting words in my mouth) but I'll prove you wrong,

You say that Obama won because he's black
- Black people are only 12% of the american population

- Is Obama Jewish? (77% voted for him)
- Is Obama hispanic? (67% voted for him)
- Is Obama a woman? (56% voted for him)
- Is Obama catholic? (54% voted for him)
Todd, Gawiser: ‘How Barack Obama Won’ - White House- msnbc.com

Why did you stop with that group of four? Is it because white men voted against him?

You know what? I intended for my vote to be aganist him but actually I voted for Sarah.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Let me guess... he became the first black president of the Harvard Law Review because he's black

I don't care if he became the first black President of that group because he was black. How could he have been that without being black?

Now let me see you write an answer to my problems to him. We are not allowed to see what his name was at Occidental or Columbia. We can't see his grades or any of his term papers and even his Masters Thesis. Surely there is some record that includes those things. Is there a reason why he sealed all those records when he did? I think there is and I am sure I know what it was.

Could you tell me why he won't let us see any of those records? Surely you know.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:57 PM
 
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Why did you stop with that group of four? Is it because white men voted against him?

You know what? I intended for my vote to be aganist him but actually I voted for Sarah.
He's only 1/2 white, but since nobody brought that up in the elections he got less than "his fair" 50%.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:00 AM
 
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Now let me see you write an answer to my problems to him. We are not allowed to see what his name was at Occidental or Columbia. We can't see his grades or any of his term papers and even his Masters Thesis. Surely there is some record that includes those things. Is there a reason why he sealed all those records when he did? I think there is and I am sure I know what it was.
I'll be honest, I don't know why he sealed those records.

Now I want you to be honest and list what the United States is gonna gain by finding out the things that you just said.
This is exactly like the BS investigation of Monica Lewinsky that cost millions of dollars.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:27 AM
 
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What do you think are in his records at Occidental and Columbia, roysoldboy?

He clearly has a degree from Columbia. He clearly has a degree from Harvard. If he were going to change his name, why would he go with Hussein knowing full well his aspirations? A lot of public figures lock their college records from public view so that their writings cannot be used against them. That's not uncommon at all.

Does he even have a Master's degree? He has a Bachelor's from Columbia and a Law degree from Harvard. Are you calling his Law degree a masters?

I haven't followed this birth certificate issue, so I'm just asking. I know the Supreme Court studied the case and dismissed it as baseless. There's the possibility the court was forced to do it, but it's not likely they'd get all the judges to go along with that.

I also know the evidence is overwhelming that the 2000 and 2004 elections were rigged and stolen, so if we're going to nit-pick, we hadn't had a legal president since 2000.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I'm going to start a drinking game using the words "socialist" and "Nobama" based on these responses.

People are so vicious on this forum for a guy just trying to plug a sinking ship, I should be passed out in an hour.
Tell me about it.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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The problem is that people like you try to twist everything even a compliment.If I said that there was no racism in our country and for that I am very proud,is that a good statement or not? Obviously it's good and my opinion is; over the years the amount of racial hate and persecution has become less from then to now. I said that i'm proud that the public picked a candidate and racism didn't hold Obama back from attaining the office of the president.
I have to ask,are you black?The way you are coming off is as if you have a chip on your shoulder and no matter how I word it you'll try to twist this into some type of racial persecution! This is a compliment how we have evolved into a country where any man or woman can run for president and get a fair shot as opposed to years ago.I am a jewish guy and we have yet to attain the presidency but if one day we did and the same statement came up,i'd be smart enough to know that this was a compliment and NOT a comment like he made it even though he was black!
I think you're misunderstanding me entirely. The heart of the issue, in my opinion, is whether we should be a colorblind society or not. If we are not going to be a colorblind society, then we have to take the good with the bad. If we're going to divide ourselves along racial or ethnic lines, then we must accept the fact that that has both positive and negative consequences. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Conversely, if we are to be colorblind, which I would advocate, then we will treat everybody as an individual. The color of your skin won't matter, nor will you gender, your religion, or your lifestyle choices.

Martin Luther King Jr. said:
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

And the kicker is we have that opportunity, but as long as we look at Barrack Obama, and instead of seeing a man, see a black man, we will never realize it. And, by the way, I'm not Black (my ancestry is almost entirely Northern European).

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I'm gonna explain it to you in few words, so take some notes.
I love the smug sense of superiority. That never gets old...

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For centuries, black people have been oppressed, discriminated, lynched, etc, etc. in the US, many times with the help of the government.
You say "put it behind us",
it's easy to say when you didn't suffer what some people had to suffer (blacks and many whites, hispanic, asians that stood up for their friends)
If somebody was 20 during the 1960s when many people lost their lives fighting for civil rights (end Jim Crow),
that person today is 59-69 years old.


It's easy to tell them: "Just put it behind, you live in the 21st century"
There's a lot of people that will remind them that there's still racism
Modern Lynching - The Legacy of James Byrd, Jr.
Amadou Diallo: Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots, And an Unarmed Man Is Killed

and it's not so easy to "put it behind" when they had to go through this:
The 1963 Birmingham Church Bombing
Preacher jailed over KKK killings
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/10/na.../10killen.html


For the people (of all races) that suffered for centuries due to all the hate against black people
to see Obama elected president is similar to the feeling that some people had when OJ Simpson was finally put in jail.
They get the opposite feeling of hearing about a racist lynching, they feel pride, love, joy, etc.
I'm not trying downplay the history of racism in society. I'm not telling people to forget about it, because clearly we cannot allow ourselves to repeat the same mistakes of the past. Racism is certainly still a problem in this society, and the only way to 'cure it' is to break the cycle entirely. I'm not saying this is an easy thing to do, but it seems that the younger you are the easier it is. Say I have a friend named John (who happens to be black), can't he just be my friend John? Or does he have to be my black friend John? Or, for another example, consider that I am part Irish (a persecuted people themselves). If I lead a successful life in this country, and rise to some position of renown, will people then say "good for him, he overcame his Irish ancestry and made something of himself." I'd certainly hope not! Maybe I could spend my time complaining and grieving over what happened to my ancestors, but what would that accomplish other then separating myself from the majority of the people in this country on some grounds other then the capacity of my mental faculties?
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