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Originally Posted by GregW
Last I checked they don't grow lettuce in the winter in Illinois. Or decent wine any time. California sends much more money to the Feds than it gets back so the mid west can produce subsidized ethanol with subsidized corn.
Nothin’ personal Muleskinner.
No offense taken ol'Buddy....I just don't see the midwest as useless in any way ...Our nation eats off the midwests table for the most part and although we need tech jobs in our country,we need food to feed the techies also.Both are equally important imo and there is no "useless" state in our nation the way I see it,but there are darn sure some worthless cities within those important states.
You guys are amazing.
You have no talking points so you keep bringing up my living in San Diego 30 yrs ago.
And you know what..I ll repeat again, Why was it nicer back then hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. No illegals and no welfare state.
Oh and by the way did you receive your tax refunds yet?
There isn't a single San Diegan who would agree with you on that one.
Considering that I LIVE HERE IN SAN DIEGO, I'm a much better authority than you are. Downtown San Diego (the Gaslamp) was a cesspool of junkies, prostitutes and drunks. Now it's filled with high-end real estate, fancy restaurants, botiques and galleries. Yeah, it's so much worse now.
It's also called "Rose-colored glasses". When I look back at my time living in New Hampshire or New Orleans, I see only the positives, but I left those places for many reasons and most of them were negative. 30 years can cloud a lot of memories, especially those of how nice a place was.
I would be careful about calling those Midwestern states economically useless. Much of our nation's food supplies come from there. Without those useless states, many people in this country and the world would be starving.
Not as much of the food comes from the Midwest as you think. California and Texas produce a lot of what we eat. Iowa, Nebraska and the rest are a lot less significant than they used to be. The San Joaquin Valley is massive and has a greater variety than just corn and wheat...when you think of major food staples, very few of them originate in the midwest. There's a reason why fewer and fewer people work on midwestern farms these days.
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Originally Posted by leftydan6
Not as much of the food comes from the Midwest as you think. California and Texas produce a lot of what we eat. Iowa, Nebraska and the rest are a lot less significant than they used to be. The San Joaquin Valley is massive and has a greater variety than just corn and wheat...when you think of major food staples, very few of them originate in the midwest. There's a reason why fewer and fewer people work on midwestern farms these days.
What are you saying Dan,you want to just cut us out of the picture altogether and just keep Texas and Cali???
Not as much of the food comes from the Midwest as you think. California and Texas produce a lot of what we eat. Iowa, Nebraska and the rest are a lot less significant than they used to be. The San Joaquin Valley is massive and has a greater variety than just corn and wheat...when you think of major food staples, very few of them originate in the midwest. There's a reason why fewer and fewer people work on midwestern farms these days.
Less people work on farms these days because of mechanization. A single man with a large high-horsepower tractor can manage thousands of acres where back in the 50s maybe a few hundred acres. Plus yields per acre have dramatically increased since WW2 because of fertilizers and insecticides.
I can not believe you would make a statement minimizing the impact of midwestern agriculture. The midwest and great plains are the breadbasket of the world! That is where nearly all the ethanol that is mixed in with gasoline comes from.
There isn't a single San Diegan who would agree with you on that one.
Considering that I LIVE HERE IN SAN DIEGO, I'm a much better authority than you are. Downtown San Diego (the Gaslamp) was a cesspool of junkies, prostitutes and drunks. Now it's filled with high-end real estate, fancy restaurants, botiques and galleries. Yeah, it's so much worse now.
It's also called "Rose-colored glasses". When I look back at my time living in New Hampshire or New Orleans, I see only the positives, but I left those places for many reasons and most of them were negative. 30 years can cloud a lot of memories, especially those of how nice a place was.
Do you really consider that to be "progress"? Give me the junkies and prostitutes any day of the week. I'd rather have them than the smug yuppies who now rule over the gaslamp.
California is a perfect example of what this country is becoming.
A high taxed,welfare state,illegal immgrant dump !
How do you people in Cali. let this non sense go on?
WTH is wrong with this country..wake up America !
Liberal driving force is so powerful - and so politically correct - that it is often very difficult to confront in today's day and age much less correct.
Libs always bring up the same stupid arguement.."Americans dont do those job"...well my azz we dont.
Everytime ICE raids a business the next day there are lines of AMERICANS trying to get those jobs.
IIRC - liberals did not encourage illegal immigration but favored legal regulated immigration at rate that could be sustained. The conservative interests opened the border to supply cheap labor for the farms, service scut work and labor intensive processing in order to keep costs down and unions out. Blaming liberals is just another example of a tactic used by the Republicans fornot taking responsibility for their actions.
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Liberal driving force is so powerful - and so politically correct - that it is often very difficult to confront in today's day and age much less correct.
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....I just don't see the midwest as useless in any way ...Our nation eats off the midwests table for the most part and although we need tech jobs in our country,we need food to feed the techies also.Both are equally important imo and there is no "useless" state in our nation the way I see it,but there are darn sure some worthless cities within those important states.
