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Until an organism can live on its own, it's a parasite.
Okay, so take a child, born into this world at a full 9 months. It's lungs aren't fully developed. The hospital takes the baby from the womb and puts it on life support. Without the life support the child cannot live on it's own.
A 54 year old woman has a stroke and needs IVs to give her nutrients and a respirator to breathe.
As in neither of these cases these people cannot live on their own, they are now parasites. I should have the RIGHT to walk into a hospital, pull the plug on them and call it abortion, right?
Hmmm... and what was all the fuss about the Terry Schiavo case? She was not a PERSON, she was a parasite, according to some poster's logic.
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it is death
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Originally Posted by Richmonder27
You're taking a life and deciding to end it. You take a life and then you make the "choice" to do so. Thats what murder is.
So how is it not considered murder? Abortion is taking a life. Just because a fetus is not born yet, does not mean its not a human. Thats how we all start.
We are all alive because our mothers gave birth to us and didnt end our lives in the womb.
abortion is a death. an aborting of a life form. murder is a subjective, qualifying term. what you qualify as murder, another qualifies as a necessary death.
we all play god from time to time. it's everyone's role to take responsibility, even if it occurs as an afterthought. however, there is a limit to the rule we have over our 'neighbor' .
Why isn't it murder when a murderer gets the electric chair or when you kill off people in wars and battles?
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Originally Posted by Richmonder27
You're taking a life and deciding to end it. You take a life and then you make the "choice" to do so. Thats what murder is.
So how is it not considered murder? Abortion is taking a life. Just because a fetus is not born yet, does not mean its not a human. Thats how we all start.
We are all alive because our mothers gave birth to us and didnt end our lives in the womb.
Abortion is not classified as murder in the United States.
If someone comes into your house and starts beating you, and you kill him, did you murder him? The state most likely won't charge you with murder, so you didn't commit murder. Yet he's dead, at your hands.
If a prisoner is executed by the state, was he murdered? He's dead, his death was deliberately caused by others. But was he murdered? The state says no.
If you wish to draw a distinction between deaths of innocents, and deaths of people who "deserve it" as determined by the state - what about deaths of innocents in wars we start? Is it murder? The general consensus is that it isn't. It's "collateral damage" or an "unfortunate incident" or "that's how war is."
At any rate, murder is non-state-sanctioned or non-state-forbidden death of another. Abortion doesn't fit this definition.
I'll agree that abortion is ending the life of another human. Sometimes that human isn't wholly formed human yet, sometimes it is. But our laws allow that to happen as long as the child is still part of the mother's body. And my conscience allows me to accept that in my own personal life.
Because you are killing off a blob of cells that is essentially a parasite. Its the same as if you were getting rid of a tumor if it is disposed of within the 1st trimester.
Once it develops further, though, you're S.O.L.
You're a man, correct? If so, then would YOU carry a thing inside you for 9 months, endure the horrible bodily changes, then push something the size of a watermelon out of something the size of a walnut?
If you're a woman, then its your. choice. to pop out children despite the things listed above.
A lot of guys would say that they would "gladly" give birth that way, even if it means a certain death for themselves. God ! Talk about population control.
Actually, that information is highly suspect. Why? Because more than 50% of women don't report rapes. Period. If they don't report them to the police, they certainly aren't going to share it with a clinician at a medical facility where they have no history or relationship.
As though an abortionist is going to ask.
I know of one case in which the woman said she was raped so she could get an abortion that was illegal at the time. Later she came clean and admitted she was not raped but was told to say that in her testimony.
Since the landmark Supreme Court decision, Norma McCorvey gave birth to her child, and Sandra Bensing never had an abortion. Both of these women have also come forward to admit that their testimony was false. In 1987, McCorvey told Washington Times columnist Carl Rowan that the Roe decision was based on false testimony. She admitted that her account of being raped in 1969 was a fabrication designed to invalidate the law. Instead, she confessed that she had become pregnant by her boyfriend.
its murder and those doing it should be locked up r sterilize. & it should be grounds 4 a man to divorce his wife & not pay alimony or at least they should lose custody of other kids. abortion is really only justifable if the mother life is in danger & that aint most cases. 4 people who talk a/b all the women that die from illegal abortion that the risk they take y should we care if they dont care a/b their own baby in their stomach. contraception ends when legs r open u should not have sex w/ people u dont plan to have kids with.
gosh a thread from 09' bumped by a new poster, bashing murderous women with loose morals because they have sex.
grow a womb and you can do what you want with it, until then mind your own business.
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