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Hmmm... using vastly different ideology, both Reagan and FDR dropped unemployment by large amounts in response to very different economic crises and were both very popular.
Maybe, just maybe, one ideology isn't always right.
Let's see if we can get the Republicans to go along with that!
the republican party today can't go along with anything. they have zero credibility left. they had all the opportunites to get their house in order when they had the house, senate and presidency. what did they do? they spent and regulated and generally destroyed our economy. now we criticize the democrats! they are going to do the same thing as bush! spend, regulate, attack economic liberty, attack civil liberty and nation build.
just when i thought the gop and conservatives couldn't get any lower, they poll mitt romney as their favorite to lead the gop at the next election. we have learned absolutely nothing!
ONE OF THE most diverting aspects of the debate over President Obama's stimulus plan has been the concerted conservative attack on the New Deal.
One might have thought that voters of that day had pretty much settled the question of whether the New Deal worked by enthusiastically reelecting FDR, and not once but three times. But since right-wing revisionism is really an arrow aimed at the current stimulus plan, the effort to discredit the New Deal is worth examining.
Until closed down by Congress and the war boom in 1943, the various programs of the WPA added up to the largest employment base in the country — indeed, the largest cluster of government employment opportunities in most states. Anyone who needed a job could become eligible for most of its jobs.[1] Hourly wages were the prevailing wages in the area; the rules said workers could not work more than 30 hours a week but many projects included months in the field, with workers eating and sleeping on worksites. Before 1940, there was some training involved in teaching new skills and the project's original legislation went forward with a strong emphasis on family, training and building people up. The role and participation of labor unions in WPA processes is unclear.
What year do you think we started vamping up and providing funding to the war effort? There was a fairly big campaign while FDR still was espousing isolationism (expect more liberals to come out the wood work because that's not what they learned in school)
Did you know there was a wall street coup to overthrow FDR? I'm sure that dirty capitalist bit of history took up chapter after chapter. How about FDR calling the previous administration socialist. Did you know the funding for most of the new deal projects went to pay off the voter base that was iffy of him. Generally those same people that thought he was going to steal their wealth (he did, stole all the gold then announced it suddenly was worth more because someone had a monopoly on it.... He never looked back since.
You might see his economic choices in today's liberal mantra. "Look at the south and how poor and worthless they are". Well you took the money from everyone and almost solely distributed it all for political gain (go figure, a crook that stole everyone's gold also had self interest in politics).
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“It [the 1930s] is the only decade in the history of the United States in which there was no economic growth. Income per person in 1939—adjusted for changes in the general level of prices, or real income per person—was less than in 1929.”
“They came to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well.”
Georgia Senator Richard Russell complained:
“the manner in which these funds have been distributed to date has a tendency to make the rich States richer, and to make the poor States and the poor people of those States poorer.”
From the Christina Romer paper, which I'm sure you guys know who that is by now:
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Fiscal policy played a relatively small role in stimulating recovery in the United States. Indeed, the Revenue Act of 1932 increased American tax rates greatly in an attempt to balance the federal budget, and by doing so dealt another contractionary blow to the economy by further
What year do you think we started vamping up and providing funding to the war effort? There was a fairly big campaign while FDR still was espousing isolationism (expect more liberals to come out the wood work because that's not what they learned in school)
Did you know there was a wall street coup to overthrow FDR? I'm sure that dirty capitalist bit of history took up chapter after chapter. How about FDR calling the previous administration socialist. Did you know the funding for most of the new deal projects went to pay off the voter base that was iffy of him. Generally those same people that thought he was going to steal their wealth (he did, stole all the gold then announced it suddenly was worth more because someone had a monopoly on it.... He never looked back since.
You might see his economic choices in today's liberal mantra. "Look at the south and how poor and worthless they are". Well you took the money from everyone and almost solely distributed it all for political gain (go figure, a crook that stole everyone's gold also had self interest in politics).
Sorry John but you started the whole lets see what the people thought. Lets see what they thought after 8 years.
After 12 years he still won by a landslide 432 to 99. President Elect - 1944
Reagan can't match those numbers. You may hate FDR, but like Reagan the people spoke. I think its petty to claim to know how thing were opposed to those that were there. You might hate him but history tells a different story.
Don't forget that "Isolationist" FDR was secretly funneling support to Claire L. Chennault's Flying Tigers, before the start of hostilities in 1941.
Chennault spent the winter of 1940–1941 in Washington, supervising the purchase of 100 Curtiss P-40 fighters (diverted from a Royal Air Force order) and the recruiting of 100 pilots and about 200 ground crewmen. During the summer and fall 1941, these 300 men, carrying civilian passports, boarded ships destined for Burma.
FDR was one of the greatest liars of American politics. And Americans who revere him are the greatest fools.
Sorry John but you started the whole lets see what the people thought. Lets see what they thought after 8 years.
After 12 years he still won by a landslide 432 to 99. President Elect - 1944
Reagan can't match those numbers. You may hate FDR, but like Reagan the people spoke. I think its petty to claim to know how thing were opposed to those that were there. You might hate him but history tells a different story.
You are working on revisionism. If you'll notice the "blue" states were the ones brought up in the previous post for the ones that got the most money. Totally ignoring the impoverished (in the pocket) south. Just saying... And Mondale carried one state. His own. Reagan took the biggest land slide in American history. Still has that record. 525 electoral votes before that it was LBJ (Carter really really sucked). It's not that Reagan was a bad guy or people didn't like him. The reason the largest group and most vocal group around don't like him because he invoked god @ practically every corner. It sends chills down the spines of atheist who need feverishly to prove religious people have no possible way to make clear decision (straight from Lenin's brain and out liberals mouths).
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