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Old 03-22-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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No one should be praying in public schools.
You have 16 hours a day to pray in your private life, keep it out of the schools.

The bible says something about praying in a closet, because it's a private matter.

Unless you are Muslim, in which its OK to remodel a school at taxpayer expense so you can have your own prayer room.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:23 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Not out loud and not with special time or rooms or consideration.
Didn't you just read the Matthew 6 verses above?
What makes your religious practice so special?
Maybe you should send your kids to parochial school, if you want prayer in the schools. Of course, it would be with your own money.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Because my child has the right as much ar your child does. If I'm paying my money for my child to go to school, my child has the right to pray. I feel it is ignorant for someone to say that a perticular child can't pray because they don't believe in praying. I'm not saying that the hole class has to pray because I don't believe that is fair to the hole class.

But if there is only one student that prays, they have the right to have a place provided for them to pray. I did not say out loud for the hole world to hear, that is you making assumption and attacking someone who wants to pray. I said provide a room with only that person in it who wants to pray. If you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with respecting others and what they do that does not pertain to what you think.

If I'm paying for my child, My child will have a place provided just as well as your child does not have to pray. So, instead of attacking and throwing out scripture know what you are talking about.

Matthew 6 is talking about praying to your Father and not praying in public for the world to see for you own gradification. It does not mean that a person can't pray in school in a private area. This is another example of someone providing scripture to try to make their idea look good, and not understanding what the scripture means. This is a free world and a person has the right to pray as well as someone who does not pray.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:36 AM
 
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But if there is only one student that prays, they have the right to have a place provided for them to pray.
It's called home or church.

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If I'm paying for my child, My child will have a place provided just as well as your child does not have to pray. So, instead of attacking and throwing out scripture know what you are talking about.
You didn't mention that your kid went to parochial or private school. That's the only way you're paying, public school is open to all, not simply the tyranny of the christers.

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Matthew 6 is talking about praying to your Father and not praying in public for the world to see for you own gradification.
Yep, but not in a private room, why not silently wherever they are without affecting other people or getting special treatment?

Please check your spelling.
Maybe your school-aged child can help: the words are "whole" not "hole" and "gratification" not "gradification."
I learned how to spell during my privately paid for years in a christian school where we were never given special space or time to pray;
maybe because prayer is personal business.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:04 AM
 
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5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6:5-6

For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Mathew 18:20
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:15 AM
 
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Yeah, your god-thing can be in their midst but it doesn't mean that the rest of us have to hear it.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:19 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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It's called home or church.

You didn't mention that your kid went to parochial or private school. That's the only way you're paying, public school is open to all, not simply the tyranny of the christers.



Yep, but not in a private room, why not silently wherever they are without affecting other people or getting special treatment?

Please check your spelling.
Maybe your school-aged child can help: the words are "whole" not "hole" and "gratification" not "gradification."
I learned how to spell during my privately paid for years in a christian school where we were never given special space or time to pray;
maybe because prayer is personal business.
You learned how to spell, but you did not learn respect for other people.

Christians are not the only ones who pray, you don't know if I'm Christian or not. You are making an assumption. And in private and public school a place is being provided for students who pray, so if you don't like it then who cares.

Providing a room is not giving special attention, it is providing a room for a particular need. It's not up to you who can and who can't pray. Rooms are being provided, like it or not.

That's the only way you're paying, public school is open to all, not simply the tyranny of the christers. Such an ignorant statement. Public school is provided for all.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:41 AM
 
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Yeah, your god-thing can be in their midst but it doesn't mean that the rest of us have to hear it.
I thought you liked Mathew?!?!

Oh well - my prayers are with you!
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