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Old 03-03-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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Oh, yeah. If you make unsupported statements then that makes them irrefutably correct.
Give me an example that proves my definition wrong. Can you do that?

 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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Where is your scientific proof?

The sky is green. This is true because I say it is.
LOL. I love this. All you have to do is provide an example that disproves my definition. Can you do it?
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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Life definitely ends in frivolous wars based on lies.

Life definitely ends in ecological destruction justified by economic "progress".

It's a scientific fact.

End the hypocrisy and we'll listen. Life is life is life. You want to be pro-life, then stand up and be pro-life in all regards.

Otherwise, you're just trying to control women and force them to be subjects of the state, which last I checked is not very conservative.
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Here is the irrefutable definition of an embryo which should put an end to abortion debate.

A human embryo is that which will develop into an adult human being if given adequate nutrition and care, and barring premature illness or injury.

This simple defnition covers everything. What it means is that even a one-second-old embryo is no different except in stage of development than an older fetus, a newborn, a five-year-old or a sixteen year old. Period.

Nothing you can introduce such as independent heart beat, lung function, or cognitive state invalidates this definition, for all are developmental milestones.
Well, that clears the whole thing up. Life begins at conception because "Eeeee22895" on city-data says it does. Call the Supreme Court and let them know. Stop the presses on all the books out there on the subject. Close the clinics. It's been settled. Whew. That's a relief.

Now we can all go on to something else, like Obama's birth certificate. Is there a thread on that?
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Give me an example that proves my definition wrong. Can you do that?
There is no scientific definition of life. You cannot define where it begins.
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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and another one of these threads. don't you people have anything to do during the day?
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-abortion.html
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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We kill babies with bombs, so I see no reason that embryos deserve any special protection.

Now I hate stupid arguments like that foisted by the OP because I am inherently opposed to abortion but that is a personal moral choice and not one that I would mandate on another. So, I find in disturbing that such debates inspire me to take an opposing view just in order to defend the rights of other to choose their own moral path.
Stupid argument? My definition proves the personhood of every human being from conception to death. To favor abortion is to favor killing a person.

Your stated believe about personally opposing abortion but allowing it for others is specious and hypocritical. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Would you say "I oppose rape, but who the hell am I to deny a rapist his choice to rape?"
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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Well, that clears the whole thing up. Life begins at conception because "Eeeee22895" on city-data says it does. Call the Supreme Court and let them know. Stop the presses on all the books out there on the subject. Close the clinics. It's been settled. Whew. That's a relief.

Now we can all go on to something else, like Obama's birth certificate. Is there a thread on that?
Hah - your "truthiness" tagline reminds me of a brilliant bit Jon Stewart did at the Republican convention.

His female correspondent (don't know her name) asked Republicans what they thought of Bristol Palin's decision to keep her baby.

They would, of course applaud it, and then the correspondent would say something like, "So, she had the freedom to decide for herself what was best for her. I'm trying to think of the word.... what is it.... She made a ...." And then the people would either catch on to what she was doing and refuse to say the word "choice" or, as one young woman did, the correspondent opened her mind and she couldn't argue the logic.

Quite brilliant insight into the fact that ending abortion can be done with legislation about as easily as ending war.
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eeeee22895 View Post
Here is the irrefutable definition of an embryo which should put an end to abortion debate.

A human embryo is that which will develop into an adult human being if given adequate nutrition and care, and barring premature illness or injury.

This simple defnition covers everything. What it means is that even a one-second-old embryo is no different except in stage of development than an older fetus, a newborn, a five-year-old or a sixteen year old. Period.

Nothing you can introduce such as independent heart beat, lung function, or cognitive state invalidates this definition, for all are developmental milestones.
So don't "concept" anything and you'll be fine!



The debate SHOULD be over ....abortion is legal....so why do you keep debating it????
 
Old 03-03-2009, 12:58 PM
 
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There is no scientific definition of life. You cannot define where it begins.
Same response.

1) Is a ten-year-old alive?
2) What's the difference between a ten-year-old and a new embryo other than developmental?
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