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Um, no, I pointed out the misspellings, expletives, lack of form (in other words, no paragraphs, lack of flow and cohesion, and faulty thesis), AND grammar.
You see, here in the REAL world, if something is rife with errors and takes great effort to read, people don't take it seriously -- if they bother to read it at all. Again, this is a good example of astonishingly low standards among that ilk.
Was there actually something to read there? It looked like a wall of words to me.
Reagan was a Conservative, he lead the Conservative resurgence that died in the 1920s. Domestically he was the textbook definition of a fiscal Conservative, but obviously his militaristic side cancelled out that aspect of his presidency.
I suspect that you are trying to work in a cleverly hidden personal attack. However, my stances remains the same; if you arguement has potential, you should not need to result to personal attacks in order to gain ground... But then again who cares. In the words of my generation, up yours!
Works for me. Per Wikipedia's definition of Fiscal Conservatism, Reaganomics was the pinnacle of said ideology. Reagan adovcated deregulation, tax cuts/breaks, and reduction in government. The best part of it all? It worked. We had the highest growth rates since WWII, low unemployment, and a sharp decline in inflation (too sharp of a decline in inflation as a matter of fact, it lead to a S&L crisis - a topic for another day).
Out of curiosity, what is it you are trying to debate..?
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.
Out of curiosity, did you wake up one morning in a big puddle of drool, unshaven, and realize you were 8 years older? I saw images of severed heads oozing blood, effigies burned, and pictures of the Bush children with knives in their backs and horns on their heads at one single protest in Washington, DC. Criticism of 0bama has been mild at worst.
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The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
Help? You tell me what percentage of that massive spending waste was aimed to directly "help" those in need. And by "help," you mean rob future generations (my generation and my unborn children's generation) with massive spending bills that can never be repaid.
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Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc.
I've seen no such person making these sorts of claims. Unless they've been sleeping the past 8 months, too.
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and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Yes, they were. The Truth-in-Lending Act ensures as much. The purchase of a home is the single largest purchase an individual will ever make. You think it might be wise to read the fine print and figure out the details of the loan. These people willingly took money, signed a contract stating that they agreed to the terms of that contract, and were under an obligation to fulfill the terms of that contract. If they didn't find the terms agreeable, they shouldn't have signed or took the money (and yes, they did take money). And if they didn't take the time to read or even understand the terms of the single largest investment they'll ever make, what can you say? "Ooops??? Now someone else should pay for my mistake!"
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Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
And I'm sure many people trusted their government--until it started robbing them to pay for others' mistakes.
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Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
Sure they do. Any investment carries risks. You're going to risk your life's savings and years of earnings on a "can't miss" deal that's making a killing on the market? My friend, there's always a catch. There's a reason not everyone is making that kind of money, and if you can't find it, it's hidden for a reason--usually not a wholesome one.
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They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note.
No, you may thank the Community Reinvestment Act passed originally under Carter and re-written under Clinton for that. Go look it up. You can say the Bush administration was a bit too lax on enforcing the existing laws, but the laws were written long ago. The creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just allowed them to escalate. This has been brewing since the late 90s. Or perhaps you can think of some specific act passed by Bush and the Republicans that lead to this? Go ahead and name it. I'll be waiting.
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I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves
Nope. Home ownership is good for everyone. I like seeing people being able to have something they could sell if catastrophe hit. It's one of the few areas where people save. That's less I'm going to be expected to bail out down the road.
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The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office.
Generally when you step into office and pass massively unfriendly legislation towards businesses, that's going to be the net result. You attack businesses, and people don't see them as attractive investments, anymore.
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What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to?
Bernie Madoff donated tens of thousands to Democrats. If that's what you mean.
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Yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state.
You're wrong here. Most of the new factories have been showing up in Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and the like because they're non-union and don't have ridiculous costs of living. I've got friends in these plants. All of them are making over $25 an hour, and none of them want to unionize. They're kicking Detroit's butt, and they know it. They've got a good thing going, these factories have revitalized towns, and no union thug is going to ruin that.
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gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions
The United States has the world's second highest rate of corporate taxation. You can talk of tax breaks all you want, but that fact in mind, it's really no surprise why corporations would look to do business elsewhere.
You heard about Exxon making the most profits ever? $42-billion? Guess how much the federal government made off Exxon's work. $126-billion dollars. Yup, the government made more off Exxon's work than Exxon did.
When Obama's budget numbers end up getting shot to pieces and the national debt booms, you'll see whose policies were more friendly to the middle class. God help of us if inflation takes off. There's no amount of income redistribution that can fix that kind of mess if it happens. And Obama's setting us up for it.
If our nation is ever going to return to the great stature we once held, we're going to have to get back to personal accountability. There are a lot of people out there who have no sense of it now.
Works for me. Per Wikipedia's definition of Fiscal Conservatism, Reaganomics was the pinnacle of said ideology. Reagan adovcated deregulation, tax cuts/breaks, and reduction in government. The best part of it all? It worked. We had the highest growth rates since WWII, low unemployment, and a sharp decline in inflation (too sharp of a decline in inflation as a matter of fact, it lead to a S&L crisis - a topic for another day).
Out of curiosity, what is it you are trying to debate..?
That Reagan was an accidental keynesian and not a supply sider with his economic success. In other words it was his growth in spending(military) that stimulated the economy, and furthermore that it was his tax cuts that lead to the defecits and not spending.
I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.
The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
They say we should not help those with mortgage problems because they bought more house than they could afford or that they are just bullshi**ers abusing the system.
Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc. They blame Freddie and Fannie for giving loans to "unqualified" people who can't afford the loans, and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Conservatives say,"oh they should have known better than to take that loan, or the should have done their research". Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note. I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves. Remember, home ownership is one of the best ways to acquire and sustain wealth, some republicans do not want this for certain people it seems.
The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office. What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to? have the millions upon millions of dollars lost and the fraudulent, inflated numbers they posted as profits and returns helped kill the market? Not if you ask conservatives/repubs, they say it's all Pres. Obamma's fault.
They tow the line of " the wealthy creates jobs and money flows down to the middle class" but CEO's lay off thousands, send job overseas for which they receive tax breaks from repub lawmakers and then they say "small business" is the backbone of America, yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state. Sounds like real socialism to me.
They seem to be saying *** everyone who doesn't have it as good as I have.
Your union job got sent overseas *** you you should have went to college, your job got eliminated *** you, you didn't deserve to make that much anyway, the unions artificially inflated your worth you should have never been a middle class worker and living in my neighborhood.
The countriy is in shambles Pres. Obamma is trying to turn this economy around,*** him, he's a Muslim, socialist, idiot, non-citizen, and Rush said he should fail in his policies to help the country.
*** Obamma (not President Obamma) he's bankrupting the country, it doesn't matter Pres. Bush has us fighting two illegal wars and hid the true dollar cost, pallets of millions in cash went overseas and just disappeared, no bid contracts for his best friends that totals hundreds of millions gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions.
The cons/Repubs seem hellbent on two things, totally undermining the President of the United States of America and ignoring the fact the the state of the country is in large part to their ideology of screw the less affluent and stack the deck for the wealthy.
I could have been more precise on some issues but I can see this post is much too long and I was typing as things came to mind.
Thank you. That is the best laugh I've had in a long time. I was thinking about going through each individual point and ripping it to shreds, but why bother when every other conservative on this forum will do it for me. I'll just skip ahead to the ending. Oh, Yeah!
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Your blind I never saw endless rants about ridiculous topics like where he took his wife to dinner for valentines dinner.
Nah ... Many liberal CD posters preferred to cackle about how they'd love to throw shoes at Bush and poke fun at the way he speaks.
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, no paragraphs, lack of flow and cohesion, and faulty thesis), AND grammar.
