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Old 03-05-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I believe you dont understand the intent of the consitution, as well as its common understanding:

The Framers wished to ensure that no such system of heredity developed in the United States and specifically prohibited any state or the federal government from granting any title of nobility.

 
Old 03-07-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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The man had two of his brothers assasinated while serving in government, a third brother died while in military combat, and Ted himself is now battling a terminal form of brain cancer, and may not live to see the coming summer.

He spent nearly his entire life serving in public office.

And he now faces what could be his final months on Earth, and you are concerned about his receiving an honory award from England?

I am completely amazed that anyone could be so be so heartless to even start a thread such as this one!
Very well said. Maybe, unfortunately, some people in this country just enjoy being angry, attacking, and especially "kicking someone when they're down." Sometimes the attacks against Kennedy sound almost as if the source is really self-hatred, rather than moral outrage, or hatred of Kennedy. It's so easy to depersonalize and demonize a human being whom you've never met face to face.
 
Old 03-07-2009, 10:11 AM
 
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IF Congress gives approval - it's legal. Check the record. I can't seem to find the statute or bill - but I could be mistaken.

And a citizen, by definition, is not a sovereign. He's a subject - so it's no big deal - except when he holds an office of TRUST.
Can't trust someone who receives honors from foreign sovereigns / nations.

But any American national, free inhabitant, and beneficiary of the magnificent heritage of sovereignty that the founding generation bequeathed to us will attest to - there is no sum of money, honor or title of nobility that would persuade them to bow nor bend a knee to any other sovereign.

I can sympathize with the majority of folks who were never informed of their lost heritage. Most Americans are swiftly chained before they left the hospital, duly enrolled into national socialism - as if an infant can volunteer.

But consider this idea, for the sake of argument, if you were born with the potential to become a sovereign, at the date of your legal majority, would you give it up?
IF you were aware that you would be a KING or QUEEN, a sovereign without subjects, the absolute ruler of your life and property, would you willingly give it up for the dubious honor of a "knighthood" in service to another sovereign's wishes?

Would King Arthur abdicate his throne to become someone else's knight?

Clearly, you have no idea how utterly ridiculous and pathetic this thread is.
 
Old 03-07-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Very well said. Maybe, unfortunately, some people in this country just enjoy being angry, attacking, and especially "kicking someone when they're down." Sometimes the attacks against Kennedy sound almost as if the source is really self-hatred, rather than moral outrage, or hatred of Kennedy. It's so easy to depersonalize and demonize a human being whom you've never met face to face.
Yeah I know and to think Limbaugh is just a radio commentator who didn't kill anyone in a DUI wreck.
 
Old 03-07-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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Yes, he should still be in jail for that horrendous crime but somehow he did it in an area where the Kennedy name was very important and he escaped. If you are reading this do it fast as we have a person among us who doesn't think that he did anything wrong at Chappaquidick. If you are too slow, duck.
Like Laura Bush killing a classmate.
She should be in jail for that horrendous crime, too.

snopes.com: Laura Bush Car Accident
 
Old 03-07-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Based on the settlement that the Kopechne family received to keep quiet, I wouldn't be surprised at how Teddy spread it around to keep his name 'clean'.

But as the scion of a bootlegging criminal family, what more would you expect?

High moral character is not a prerequisite for high office, in these united States.
Shall we talk about the Bush family and their dealings with the Nazis here?
GeorgeWalkerBush.net - Bush Nazi Link Confirmed by John Buchanan
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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Yeah I know and to think Limbaugh is just a radio commentator who didn't kill anyone in a DUI wreck.
Yeah. My brother was killed in a DUI wreck, with someone else driving the car, and, to this day, I have never, ever blamed the driver. Accident. What an interesting concept. Another thing I find amazing is that the person driving the car in which my brother was killed never was in a position to work for legislation which may have helped many Americans have better lives. Kennedy didn't have to work in government at all. He had enough money that he could have just dumped the government work and lived the life of a playboy with no concerns about the "greater good" at all, but he didn't. Oh, yes, and I still do not blame the DUI driver of the car in which my brother died for my brother's death.

ACCIDENT. ACCIDENT. Meditate on the meaning of the word "accident" for awhile.

You want to "blame" somebody.......think about blaming the people who SELL alcohol.

Yes, the person who was driving the car who had the accident which killed my brother was tried for vehicular homicide.....verdict was NOT GUILTY. Thank god! Just having to live with the fact that someone was killed in an accident in a car which that person was driving was a sentence they will have to endure throughout their life.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Yeah. My brother was killed in a DUI wreck, with someone else driving the car, and, to this day, I have never, ever blamed the driver. Accident. What an interesting concept. Another thing I find amazing is that the person driving the car in which my brother was killed never was in a position to work for legislation which may have helped many Americans have better lives. Kennedy didn't have to work in government at all. He had enough money that he could have just dumped the government work and lived the life of a playboy with no concerns about the "greater good" at all, but he didn't. Oh, yes, and I still do not blame the DUI driver of the car in which my brother died for my brother's death.

ACCIDENT. ACCIDENT. Meditate on the meaning of the word "accident" for awhile.

You want to "blame" somebody.......think about blaming the people who SELL alcohol.

Yes, the person who was driving the car who had the accident which killed my brother was tried for vehicular homicide.....verdict was NOT GUILTY. Thank god! Just having to live with the fact that someone was killed in an accident in a car which that person was driving was a sentence they will have to endure throughout their life.
Sorry for the loss of your brother, but you clearly don't have a clue as to the circumstances surrounding Kennedy's homicide.
Please don't make any further excuses for Kennedy until you have done some self study.
I doubt you would like people to make ignorant assumptions surrounding your brothers death.
 
Old 03-08-2009, 12:07 PM
 
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Sorry for the loss of your brother, but you clearly don't have a clue as to the circumstances surrounding Kennedy's homicide.
Please don't make any further excuses for Kennedy until you have done some self study.
I doubt you would like people to make ignorant assumptions surrounding your brothers death.
Allydriver, you have no idea how much information I know about the Kennedy accident, so perhaps you should not project so much when you make personal accusations and/or make assumptions.

I have done extensive research on that accident. I particiapated in another forum where over 500 posts were made regarding the information about that accident which one can find online, and at least half of those posts where made by me as I did the online research. I am not making excuses for Kennedy. It was an accident. ACCIDENTS are ACCIDENTS, period.


There was a thorough investigation into the accident and an Inquest at which Kennedy himself testified. I have read the transcript of that inquest, looked at the photos from the accident scene, and read various "witness" statements as well as many other documents. Did you know that G. Gordon Liddy had an involvement in many of the things which happened after that accident? I've done a lot of "investigation" on that ACCIDENT, so perhaps you'd like to share how much you know about it, and from what sources. Then we can have a discussion and compare "notes."

For starters, do you know who Leo Damore is?
 
Old 03-08-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Some other "traitors", then.

Ronald Reagan
George H.W. Bush
Rudy Giuliani
Dwight Eisenhower
Tommy Franks
Douglas MacArthur
George Marshall
Chester Nimitz
George Patton
Colin Powell
John J Pershing
Norman Schwarzkopf
Bill Gates
J Edgar Hoover
Edward R Murrow
and Billy Graham

Yep. Sure is a traitorous lot.


Great job, Carolina! That list will effectively end this silly thread. The onus is on the OP and allies to admit that the people named above are traitors as well. I'm thinking that it won't happen.
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