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Old 03-07-2009, 06:19 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Bush

Sorry about that but he had alot of dirty work to do.

You should thank him for having the Nads to step forward and do the right thing

Clinton did jack squat to balance the budget. The inertia of his supposed balanced budget was set into motion in 1980. He gets credt for stupidly not screwing it up. A monkey could have stumbled through that Presidency and looked good.

What we have here is a clear-cut case of Kool Aid poisoning.


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Old 03-07-2009, 06:22 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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there are TWO problems right now, that is causing 'wall street' to collapse............JOBS and HOUSING...and they go back to BEFORE bush



let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brezezenki and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan----negotiated by another brezezenki puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obamy wants to increase it too,,,hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdon: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy

1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank
2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now


for the last 6 years liberals are complaining that Bush is spending 'out of control".....yet in just 1 month they have spend more than bush did in those 6 years

Hey!

I saw your same cut-and-paste in the other thread. So, I hope you don't mind terribly if I offer the same response.

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Old 03-07-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: AL
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So you say 9/11 happened on Bushes watch? So I guess this economic mess has happened on Obumers watch so it his fault...no?
So no matter what mess Obumer makes.. you libs will say Obumer is wonderful...funny
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
there are TWO problems right now, that is causing 'wall street' to collapse............JOBS and HOUSING...and they go back to BEFORE bush



let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brezezenki and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan----negotiated by another brezezenki puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obamy wants to increase it too,,,hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdon: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy

1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank
2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now


for the last 6 years liberals are complaining that Bush is spending 'out of control".....yet in just 1 month they have spend more than bush did in those 6 years
Then what was the $800 billion that went to Iraq...a gift?If you want to talk about how economics runs in cycles then lets talk.After THIS COUNTRY gets into a war our economy ALWAYS has become GREAT financially but after Georgie boy attacked the wrong country after all told him not to,how is our status financially?I think you know the answer to that!You were one of the sleeping brains that voted him in I bet!
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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So you say 9/11 happened on Bushes watch? So I guess this economic mess has happened on Obumers watch so it his fault...no?
So no matter what mess Obumer makes.. you libs will say Obumer is wonderful...funny
You need to open your eyes.The economic mess OBVIOUSLY happened on Georgie Boy's watch too but he handed off to Obama who will now have to deal with it.Kind of like when a little kid breaks someone elses window and the parents have to pay for it."Well Bushie is that little kid and Obama is going to have to lay out the cash for his mistakes!"
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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Conservatives-Republicans have been on holiday vacation the past 8 years. there was no conservatism to speak of. only cutting taxes for the rich and top 10% corporates. you can't CUT TAXES and execute 2 wars folks, that money has to come from somewhere. now, Obama unveils a stimulous package which will benefit our economy, and has unveiled a new budget which will fund the 2 wars, and all the republican party can think of is a spending freeze? where have they been the last 8 years? in fact, the republican party has been on a spending spree for a very, very long time.
Bush the Budget Buster: When it comes to spending, George W. Bush is no Reagan. Hell, he's not even - Reason Magazine
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:56 PM
 
Location: AL
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So when Bush took over we were heading into a economic slow down..Did Bush blame Clinton...No..
Funny thing is Rep. never blame Dem. for anything. WE should start pulling your baby B.S.
" The dems did this..Dems did that"..but we dont !
You dems say.."Clinton left office with a surplus".....really....No shtz he did..why....because he cut the heck out of the military...theres your surplus...you people are fools !
Did Bush blame Clinton for 9/11.....nope...So suck it up you bunch of babies and take responability for something instead of always blaming someone else!

As for this idiot Obumer and his stimulous package (HAAAAAAAA)..Remember what I say..this idiot is purposely adding to this economic mess! Why...so he can pass his socialist B.S. programs !
If his way of thinking is soooo right..then we all should go out and max out our C.Cards..why not..thats what hes doing !
The sky is falling !
Thats all this idiot talks about...scare tactic..divide and conquer..the so call " unifier" has done nothing but "divide" this country...Hes a man in over his head !
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Conservatives-Republicans have been on holiday vacation the past 8 years. there was no conservatism to speak of. only cutting taxes for the rich and top 10% corporates. you can't CUT TAXES and execute 2 wars folks, that money has to come from somewhere. now, Obama unveils a stimulous package which will benefit our economy, and has unveiled a new budget which will fund the 2 wars, and all the republican party can think of is a spending freeze? where have they been the last 8 years? in fact, the republican party has been on a spending spree for a very, very long time.
Bush the Budget Buster: When it comes to spending, George W. Bush is no Reagan. Hell, he's not even - Reason Magazine

Actuly, you should cut taxes as they are too high as it is for everyone and every company. As for paying for the wars, cut out the socialistic programs that is un-Constitutional and you have the money to pay for the wars. My opinion is any taxes over 7 percent is too much. I think it's time for a tax tea party!
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:30 AM
 
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LOl Clinton balanced the budget? Your right...He took the money from the military and then he said..I balanced the budget..really farging smart you clinton lovers. Weak military = 9/11 our enemy preceived us weak and boom.
Clinton was an idiot...go get some more head Bill..
Oh, yeah it was a weak military that led Obama to use four hijacked civilian airliners to attack the U.S. I guess he didn't want to appear unfair by attacking U.S. troops while we were in such a weakened state of affairs.

You guys should really consider stand-up comedy.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Oh, yeah it was a weak military that led Obama to use four hijacked civilian airliners to attack the U.S. I guess he didn't want to appear unfair by attacking U.S. troops while we were in such a weakened state of affairs.

You guys should really consider stand-up comedy.

Perhaps, ovcatto, these posters aren't old enough to remember that FBI agents were reporting people taking flying lessons but not being concerned with learning
how to land. Or the warning from the Clinton admin that bin Laden planned to attack inside the U.S. using airpanes. Bushco was so busy thumping their chests and telling us all that the professionals were in charge that they weren't guarding
us at all. I've been asking for years...where was SAC while the tragedy was unfolding? The obstructionism of the GOP is smoke and mirrors to attempt to
hide the fact that they left the U.S. broke, weak and greatly diminished in the eyes of the world. That is the Bush legacy...corrupt incompetence.
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