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Old 03-14-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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OK Bob,

You have a crystal ball.

Please send $10 to that young American that chooses to freak out on Meth.

I'm getting too old to care about decisions made by fresh ignorants. The mess is just getting started. Young folks should think about their future ... but they don't.

So if socialism is what they want ( blinded as they are ) then socialism is what they'll get.

Don't blame me MrBob, if things get too out of hand.
There are plenty of unsympathetic, self-centered, greedy old-farts out there who could care less about their fellow American - especially the young...

That's a foregone conclusion...
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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The above statement is untrue. I think you were trying to say that you were/are not eligible for health INSURANCE - which is also not true.

While employer provided health insurance may not be available, there is health insurance available to you. You say you are in college. There are college student programs.

Your employer provided insurance would require contributions from you. Go out and shop around for programs with premiums around what you would have had to contribute through your employer - if it was available.

You might be actually surprised at what is out there.
You really don't have a clue what you're talking about - probably because you don't care about people who can't afford health care...

The post above that outlines a typical private health insurance policy in New York is far far more realistic than what you have been posting.

Health care is beyond the means of probably a majority of Americans - and many companies have so depleted their coverage that what they offer their employees covers very little and still leaves them with huge out of pocket (bankrupting out of pocket) expenses.

Why is it so hard to understand that people like you and I will have to pay a bit more, and maybe accept less flexibility than we do today for the national good???
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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The above statement is untrue. I think you were trying to say that you were/are not eligible for health INSURANCE - which is also not true.

While employer provided health insurance may not be available, there is health insurance available to you. You say you are in college. There are college student programs.

Your employer provided insurance would require contributions from you. Go out and shop around for programs with premiums around what you would have had to contribute through your employer - if it was available.

You might be actually surprised at what is out there.
In most states if he has any preexisting conditions he may not be eligible for health insurance. When I was 25 I tried to buy an individual plan, but I was denied because of a condition I had in the past that my doctor said was completely cured and harmless anyway. The only option available to me was to get on a long waiting list for high risk (I was perfectly healthy) insurance that cost $500/mo, there's no way I could afford that even if my name eventually came up. It was very scary for me to know I had no insurance if anything were to happen like an accident or illness, it was awful and that shouldn't happen to anyone in a country we call great. A friend of mine was denied because of acne treatment as a teenager. The health insurance industry is a mess, and many of the problems affect good people who try to do the right thing.

Most people are not looking for a handout, they just need something that they can actually afford. I looked into student programs when I was in college and they were a joke, expensive and provided little coverage when you read the fine print.

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Old 03-14-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
The above statement is untrue. I think you were trying to say that you were/are not eligible for health INSURANCE - which is also not true.

While employer provided health insurance may not be available, there is health insurance available to you. You say you are in college. There are college student programs.

Your employer provided insurance would require contributions from you. Go out and shop around for programs with premiums around what you would have had to contribute through your employer - if it was available.

You might be actually surprised at what is out there.
Sorry. No, it is not true.

Some people will find any excuse to not cover you.

Yes, I am in college...and yes, there are student programs but am I elgible? That is the question.
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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, there are student programs but am I elgible? That is the question.
Have you inquired?
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The post above that outlines a typical private health insurance policy in New York is far far more realistic than what you have been posting.
Arizona Health Insurance | Affordable Medical Plans - Free Quote

Check for yourself

Use a zip code of 85209 and Maricopa County.

Check out their plans and rates.
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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Have you inquired?
No because as stated before, I am still covered by daddy dears insurance by Chrysler.

But I am talking about college kids who are fortunate as I am. I know some kids who are working full time and going to school full time. They have inquired their employer and heck, my community college did not have a student insurance thing until a year ago!

What about kids who go to college that does not offer it?
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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Sorry. No, it is not true.

Some people will find any excuse to not cover you.

Yes, I am in college...and yes, there are student programs but am I elgible? That is the question.
Be careful with student plans, I looked at them when I was in grad school, I had previous experience administering benefits so I carefully read the policies, and was appalled at how terrible the coverage was. It was nothing but a rip off taking advantage of young people who might not understand insurance policies.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Wow.. So according to YOUR argument,

We would be a nation without a conscience or heart if we didnt find a way for everyone to receive

Food
water
housing
heat
electricity

right?

You see where I'm going with this.. Next I suppose your be registering for the communist or socialist party because thats what you end up with..

Only someone who totally lacks a conscience or heart could possibly use capitalism, as if it were some sort of religion, as an excuse to deny their fellow man water, food, and shelter!
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So now we're proposing nationalizing supermarkets, restaurants, electric companies, gas companies, and abolishing home ownershp for national projects acrossed the nation in favor of government controlled and built houses?

Ooh wait, you didnt say that, which pretty much is my point. Just because some people cant afford items needed to survive, you dont go out and nationalize it..
How about simply helping out your fellow man?

The Stone Age, when savages killed each other for food, is over. Don’t you think?
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