Can A State Be Nationalized - Or Have They Already Been? (Congress, military)

[ergohead]

Maybe it's just a matter of degree.

Did Abe Lincoln NATIONALIZE the Southern States, and all the rest?

How does this compare with today's nationalization of banks?

Can a State or Bank de-nationalize itself?

I know, I know, I'm using the "N" word instead of the "S" word. (Secede)

[ovcatto]

Lincoln never nationalized the southern states but the Congress in a manner of speaking did, in the summer of 1865 when they declared that the rebellious states had forfeited their right to statehood, and reverted them to territorial status. However, due to continued southern repression of the freedman population and resistance to the 14th amendment, divided the South into 10 military districts ruled by martial law.

What that has to do with nationalizing banks leaves me want for answer since they are completely different issues.

[nvxplorer]

Nationalization means the federal government has taken ownership of a private sector/industry/enterprise, so I don't see how a state could be nationalized. Apples and oranges.

[arctichomesteader]

The federal government had no authority to do what they did to the South, nor do they have it to nationalize banks. Of course the federal government doesn't follow the Constitution except when it wants to.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

The federal government had no authority to do what they did to the South, nor do they have it to nationalize banks. Of course the federal government doesn't follow the Constitution except when it wants to.

Where in the Constitution does it say the government cannot nationalize banks?

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

Where in the Constitution does it say the government cannot nationalize banks?

You have it backwards. It must say somewhere that the federal government can do something, or it can't.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

The federal government had no authority to do what they did to the South,

You think? Based upon what? The former confederates and their progeny should thank their lucky stars that they weren't lined up and shot as the traitors that they were.

"nor do they have it to nationalize banks. Of course the federal government doesn't follow the Constitution except when it wants to."

Perhaps you need to review McCulloch v. Maryland, SCUS 17 U.S. 316 (1819) and then read the law regarding the power of the FDIC.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

You have it backwards. It must say somewhere that the federal government can do something, or it can't.

Wrong again.

Let me introduce you to the Bill of Rights

[ovcatto]

arctichomesteader's civic's class didn't get to implied and expressed powers as set forth in McCulloch v Maryland.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

Wrong again.

Let me introduce you to the Bill of Rights

Don't think I catch your drift.