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Old 03-11-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Okay, abortion rights people.


I understand if there must remain abortions in the country. The law has been set in place , and unforunately its too late to do anything for the unborn. As much as I disagree with it, its a done deal

HOWEVER, partial-birth abortion, I cannot see how even the most solid abortion rights advocate can support. A baby is born alive, (as a normal child), then brutally murdered. IT IS murder. If people only constitute life as we know it, as existing outside the womb- then this has absolutely no excuse whatsoever!

How can President Obama lift this ban on partial-birth abortion??

It really is crossing the line. Now its one thing for abortions to be done early (which morally, I still feel is wrong, however, legally is hard to dispute)

But this is another matter entirely.

Isnt there any of you abortion rights people who may find this appalling??

Life is PRECIOUS!
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Good luck getting that by the democrat congress and obama.

He is all for partial birth abortions - and infanticide.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:32 PM
 
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The thought of that disgusts me, and I don't think it should be allowed. However, I do not think Roe v Wade should be chipped away little by little, and that is the first chip. That is why it is always voted down.

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Old 03-11-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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Partial birth abortions are rare, and they are done only under a select set of circumstances (danger to the mother's life, severe birth defects, etc.).

I have a question for anti-abortionists. Do you fight as hard for the lives of the "born" as you do the "unborn"?

People are murdered every single day, and many of these murders are legal (think "war" here). And so many die in vain from violent, brutal and horrendous murders. ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR THEM TOO???
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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Partial birth abortions are rare, and they are done only under a select set of circumstances (danger to the mother's life, severe birth defects, etc.).

I have a question for anti-abortionists. Do you fight as hard for the lives of the "born" as you do the "unborn"?

People are murdered every single day, and many of these murders are legal (think "war" here). And so many die in vain from violent, brutal and horrendous murders. ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR THEM TOO???
of course they don't. I will never understand why they fight this fight so hard for "babies" they don't know, won't know, would never have known in the first place, when there are so many other issues in the world affecting actual living, breathing human beings.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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The term "partial-birth abortion" is not a medical term, it is a term coined to inflame people who are already against abortion. The medical term is "dilation and extraction", and it is used in pregnancies where the fetus is anencephalic or has other terminal defects, and will not survive after birth. If any doctor is performing dilation and extraction on a healthy fetus, that doctor is already breaking the law, unless the mother's life/health is in imminent danger.

Dilation and extraction does not equal partial-birth abortion because the expulsion ("birth") of the fetus happens in the abortion process, making the fetus abortion product as if it were at 10 weeks, just bigger and better developed.

I doubt there are many people who would support aborting a healthy fetus in the later months of a pregnancy without a compelling health reason. I know I wouldn't.

Late term abortions are something like 1% of all abortions, if I remember correctly. Don't quote me on it; I have to go make dinner & don't have time to look up cites.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Intact Dilation and Extraction was originally developed in part so as to be able to present distraught parents involved in a failed pregnancy with intact remains to hold, grieve over, and bury if they so chose. As the technique was perfected, it became the safest, cheapest, and most easily tolerated of late-term abortion methods under many medical circumstances. That is, it became under those circumstances the medically indicated treament of choice. Anti-abortion extremists believe that because of distortion and politicization of the procedure, they should have the right to overrule the best judgments of a patient and her doctor and the medical community as a whole. I would not agree that they should have that right. Far from it...
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:10 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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I do not see how a society can condone this inhumane practice and call itself civilized.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:13 PM
 
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Late term abortions are something like 1% of all abortions, if I remember correctly. Don't quote me on it; I have to go make dinner & don't have time to look up cites.
1% - kind of like the percentage of rape-related abortions. Interesting.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:13 PM
 
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The thought of that disgusts me, and I don't think it should be allowed. However, I do not think Roe v Wade should be chipped away little by little, and that is the first chip. That is why it is always voted down.
So........you prefer skull-chipping to Roe v Wade-chipping?
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