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Old 03-17-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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Name one country that doesn't put itself first, and perhaps you would have a point. You just might notice that some are very pragmatic when it comes to free markets (China is an excellent example), others like us want to get stuck with an ideology, give up all hope and surrender to the global ways. Not healthy.
Oh I agree. Don't get me wrong. Some country is impeding our goods or services, a response is justified and expected.

Was big news a few years ago when we slapped tariffs on Canadian softwood as they were dumping. The Canucks yowled about protectionism and Bush was evil and so forth. You had Canadian professors on Jim Lehrer News Hour and the BBC screaming- yes screaming about how unjust Bush was.

The WTO just ruled in our favor.

I can only assume you and Oberon were firmly behind Dubya on that one.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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You might be suprised. Exactly how do you define a 'liberal'? In concrete terms, not vague generalities.
Well from what I have seen on this board most of the "left-thinking" posters hate walmart and make an effort to purchase American products... LIKE CARS! So again... common ground with the most unlikely of people.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Oh I agree. Don't get me wrong. Some country is impeding our goods or services, a response is justified and expected.

Was big news a few years ago when we slapped tariffs on Canadian softwood as they were dumping. The Canucks yowled about protectionism and Bush was evil and so forth. You had Canadian professors on Jim Lehrer News Hour and the BBC screaming- yes screaming about how unjust Bush was.

The WTO just ruled in our favor.

I can only assume you and Oberon were firmly behind Dubya on that one.
And I was, one of the very few things that Bush did well (perhaps one of those times when Cheney wasn't running the show).
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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And I was, one of the very few things that Bush did well (perhaps one of those times when Cheney wasn't running the show).

LOL! Fair enough.
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Obama playing field
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Bout Fukcing time!!
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:27 PM
 
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Well from what I have seen on this board most of the "left-thinking" posters hate walmart and make an effort to purchase American products... LIKE CARS! So again... common ground with the most unlikely of people.
Wal-Mart is one of the most 'American' companies out there - it is a retailer, buys products from American companies who have set up shop in China. Likewise the most 'American' car companies choose to pay themselves exorbitant salaries and bonuses and attempt to make up for it by outsourcing the jobs, whereas the Japanese companies create jobs in America and pay themselves a fraction of the CEOs here. So go figure - which is the 'liberal' and 'conservative' stance?
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:12 AM
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So you think we should continue to let our manufacturing and IT jobs continue to evaporate, as they steadily have been, for the past 8 years?
It's in part, due to the consumers that these things have happened. When Dell sells yet another "cheap" computer, people go and buy tons of them, while other companies that advertise domestic based sales and support do not see sales grow nearly as fast.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:14 AM
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If you think the ejection of Nike, Reebok, New Balance, etc, would not create the demand that would lead to the establishment new players, you are kidding yourself.
Why would you want to eject New Balance? They are one of the few companies making running shoes in the US. In order to compete with Nike, Reebok, etc... they have to have a lower end line that is made overseas, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Why would you want to eject New Balance? They are one of the few companies making running shoes in the US. In order to compete with Nike, Reebok, etc... they have to have a lower end line that is made overseas, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.

Well, if New Balance didnt have to compete with foreign shoes, they would be welcome to keep their US made products here, and compete with other US produced shoes. Since New Balance is already fairly established, they just might end up the new shoe giant in this country.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:51 PM
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Well, if New Balance didnt have to compete with foreign shoes, they would be welcome to keep their US made products here, and compete with other US produced shoes. Since New Balance is already fairly established, they just might end up the new shoe giant in this country.
What do you think would happen if the average price for shoes was 2-3x more than it is now? The US New Balance shoes are about $70-140, while the typical shoes people buy at Payless are $20-30. Payless has over 4000 locations in the US, so that is a pretty good estimate on what people pay for shoes now. Will people pay $70+? Most likely the rate of buying would drop.
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