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Old 03-16-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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Enough with all of this government is going to grab my gun nonsense. The issue of individual rights was decided by District of Columbia v Heller. Your right to keep and bear arms is now undisputed fact so the government isn't sending anyone to "come and take" your guns.
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Enough with all of this government is going to grab my gun nonsense. The issue of individual rights was decided by District of Columbia v Heller. Your right to keep and bear arms is now undisputed fact so the government isn't sending anyone to "come and take" your guns.
Lets keep the nuts living in fear, that's all they know right? They govern by fear so let them live in fear...
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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But it's becoming tedious...
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Walmart, McDonald's, liquor stores and Gun Sales are all doing well.

McDonald's Sales Climb As Consumers Seek Deals
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The concern is that the Obama administration will ignore civil rights and the constitution in order to pander to the far left nutjobs that make up the base. All this talk could be ended quickly if Obama would promise to veto any anti-gun rights bill that comes across his desk. Instead, his own AG is promiting another attack on gun owners.
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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It's a vast left wing conspiracy to force right wing to cash in their life savings to buy armament. Obama owns all armament manufacturers and deliberately declared himself liberal in the womb with a life long ambition to scare them into it. Now he's wealthy beyond all wildest expectations and can commence with his communist agenda.

Or maybe right wing is really really really desperate to whip their own constituency into a frenzy. Or maybe our courts DO take the constitution quite seriously. Maybe. But as long as liberals exist diabolically plotting and scheming as they so often do, guns in the free world must be pointed AT them.

I support 2nd amendment, but it's not in any way been easy. What psychiatric evaluation could be accurate & fair without being abused?
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Reality is, some of us are as protective of the Consttution as you liberals, left wingers, socialists and communists are of your socilal welfare give away programs...shut up already!
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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The concern is that the Obama administration will ignore civil rights and the constitution in order to pander to the far left nutjobs that make up the base.
Would you mind pointing to a single point that would indicate that the Obama administration would ignore civil rights or the Constitution when all evidence so far points to a restoration of civil rights and the rule of law?

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All this talk could be ended quickly if Obama would promise to veto any anti-gun rights bill that comes across his desk. Instead, his own AG is promiting another attack on gun owners.

Veto any "anti-gun rights bill" how absurd. How does one promise to veto a yet unwritten bill based upon the undefined rubric of "anti-gun," when you have some gun rights proponents who believe that it is a violation of their rights to have to carry a pistol concealed while in public?
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Would you mind pointing to a single point that would indicate that the Obama administration would ignore civil rights or the Constitution when all evidence so far points to a restoration of civil rights and the rule of law?



FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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Wow.
Those folks seem a little worried.
The Senate voted 61 to 36 to end the DC bans.
Last September the House voted by a huge majority (over 100 ) to end the DC bans.
The House senior leadership is fighting off a new vote because they know the bans will fall.
Good.
It's not 1994 anymore.

Now it's payback time.

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