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Old 03-18-2009, 07:27 PM
 
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If you want to know what a neocon is, there is no better example than the one up above. They are fear, there only chance of control is fear.
The self confessed neocon is Bill Kristol there was a letter written to Clinton in 98 and another to Gingrich back in 98. Well they both ignored the the letter but the message was sent. After the attack on both and their careers the message was understood. Do as they say or they will take you down. Look at the signers of those letters and compare them to the Bush cabinet and advisers. Then remember their saying " if you're against me you're against America".
Yeah some of us understand physics, matter, space-time and consequences. Others would say it isn't a problem. Humans would never go that far. I wish I had such a negligence for history. 4 billion years means a little more to some of us than others.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:52 PM
 
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Yeah some of us understand physics, matter, space-time and consequences. Others would say it isn't a problem. Humans would never go that far. I wish I had such a negligence for history. 4 billion years means a little more to some of us than others.
Then again most have read on this thread how neocons think Americans are to stupid to control America. That only the elite like you should have a say.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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1 vote 1 person. I'm not a liberal.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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Ronald Reagan
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Nice Pics! Are you implying that FDR (under who's admin the atom bomb was developed) and Truman (when it was used in anger) were Neocons?
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Bush's neo-conservative policies:
  • No Child Left Behind;
  • The 09/11/2001 Bailout;
  • Nationalizing Airport Security;
  • MediCare/MedicAid Prescription Plan D;
  • The Katrina Bailout;
  • Rebuilding Iraq & Afghanistan before winning the war against terrorism; and
  • The October 2008 Bailout.
As all the various definitions indicate, a neo-conservative is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. Neo-conservatives are liberals. They wage major wars overseas, while dramatically increasing the size of government and socialist spending domestically. Both Bush and LBJ are fine examples of neo-conservatives.

Thank you, that really does help clarify.
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thank you, that really does help clarify.
Bwahahahaha!!!

It clarifies someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and it clarifies you are afraid of the truth.

The neocons, and their supporters, live in an alternate reality, one of their own making.

Keep drinkin' that Kool Aid...
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Bwahahahaha!!!

It clarifies someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and it clarifies you are afraid of the truth.

The neocons, and their supporters, live in an alternate reality, one of their own making.

Keep drinkin' that Kool Aid...

Can you debate any of the points Glitch had? It fits to a T the Wiki definition of a Neocon.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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Nice Pics! Are you implying that FDR (under who's admin the atom bomb was developed) and Truman (when it was used in anger) were Neocons?
In terms of the morons that use them today, yes. But that's such a simple answer for something way more complicated than the fly by attackers could ever understand. Anyone that's willing to do any military action to these folks are neoconservatives. Well except Obama despite the Rhetoric nothing in his foreign policy is different. Even the Gitmo directive is a joke. It's basically a directive that says they'll will investigate to see if it can be closed in a year. But what you hear from his mouth is "it will be closed in a year". Lawyers....

Neo - New

New-liberal or New-conservative.

It is more or less used though in the new world sense.
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