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Old 03-20-2009, 01:32 PM
 
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Lose your property for growing food?

I'm hoping that many of you are non-partizan enough to stand against this and call your congressman. this is a bad bill, clearly designed to benefit the big guys for our "own safety"! i also hope that while researching this bill the penny will drop ie most regulation, for all its good intentions, hampers the small man's access to market!
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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They cannot get a grip on the food that they need to oversea now.
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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This was already covered and proven to be a myth.
Sheesh.
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Another classic from WorldNetDaily. There's less garbage in a landfill...
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Questionable as to if it would affect one's own garden - may affect that little guy who sells at the local seasonal outdoor market - like the guy in our area who grows and sells nothing but strawberries for sell at the farmers market (it's just a iin-season side job for him to pick up some extra money). Or what about those guys selling tomatoes or apples along the roadside. Hmmm, maybe those guys are already in defiance of the law.

Sounds like it would affect small farmers. These people certainly are not happy about it.
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While the proposed legislation tries to address the many problems of the industrial food system, the impact on small farms if the bill becomes law would be substantial and not for the better. HR 875 is a major threat to sustainable farming and the local food movement.
HR 875 - The Federal Take-Over of Food Regulation
My Grandpa had a small farm as well as working for the railroad. He sold beef, etc. to neighbors. Didn't grow corn cuz the govt paid him not to grow it. This would make him roll over in his grave:
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The food traceability records are not the only written documentation farmers are to supply FSA under the terms of the bill. HR 875 mandates that FSA issue regulations that “require each food production facility to have a written food safety plan that describes the likely hazards and preventive controls implemented to address those hazards” [Section 206(c)(2)]. If such a regulation does in fact call for a HACCP plan (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point, ’Hass-sepp’), farmers will be required to do the following in developing a plan for their farming operation:
  1. Conduct a hazard analysis (e.g., list the pathogens that could be present in the farming operation);
  2. Determine the critical control points (e.g., identify points in the operation where pathogens would most likely be present or could be introduced);
  3. Establish critical limits;
  4. Establish monitoring procedures;
  5. Establish corrective actions;
  6. Establish verification procedures; and
  7. Establish record-keeping and documentation procedures. HR 875 - The Federal Take-Over of Food Regulation
The burdensome requirements the bill imposes on small farms and the intrusive federal control it creates over small farm operations threaten the future viability of sustainable agriculture and the local food movement
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In General- Any food establishment or foreign food establishment engaged in manufacturing, processing, packing, or holding food for consumption in the United States shall register annually with the Administrator.

a) In General- To protect the public health, the Administrator shall establish by guidance document, action level, or regulation and enforce performance standards that define, with respect to specific foods and contaminants in food, the level of food safety performance that a person responsible for producing, processing, or selling food shall meet. H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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BTW, before someone call me a liar ....
My grandpa was paid to not grow corn. Look up corn subsidy info on the net.
It's still going on:
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.......... One reason prices are high is that farmers get paid for not farming. Real estate agents even use farm payments to sell homes to nonfarmers. ... a "20/20" producer posed as a home buyer and brought along a video camera. The three homes "20/20" visited that were for sale all got farm payments, even though nothing was farmed there. One of the homes hadn't been farmed in the last 20 years, but that hasn't stopped that homeowner from cashing in. ABC News: John Stossel: Do Government Farming Subsidies Hurt American Farmers?
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"This is just a crazy system," said David Boaz of the Libertarian Cato Institute. "It's left over from the 1930s, left over from the Depression. And it's a great example of how nothing is as permanent as a temporary government program." ABC News: John Stossel: Do Government Farming Subsidies Hurt American Farmers?
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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This was already covered and proven to be a myth.
Sheesh.
here's the bill:

GovTrack: H.R. 875: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:00 PM
 
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Another classic from WorldNetDaily. There's less garbage in a landfill...


How do you like this link?

GovTrack: H.R. 875: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House
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