Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
We ALREADY have immigration laws if we would enforce them. What a slap in the face to the countless immigrants who followed those laws and went about EARNING legal residence, the right way. Amnesty my a$$. You don't get rewarded for breaking the law.
We're already sending enough money to Mexico for the oil we buy from them which they got by drilling right off our shores where we are not allowed to drill. It's an Obamanation.
Anyone you would like. Any speach where the democrats stated that they want to reward those who came over to this country and broke the law there by making them legal or did she (pelosi) make a statement concerning overhauling the immigration law. And if the term was overhauling what is the current law today?
Have you not heard the mantra "comprehensive reform" that has started again? have you not heard amnesty for the illegals currently here? Have you not heard the whining "we can't deport the millions already here" so if you don't deport 'em then make 'em go to the back of the line what exactly ARE you doing? Hmmmm?
Did you miss the latest order stopping workplace raids? Did you MISS completely the part of the porkulus that stops employers from having to use EVerify to check status of workers before hiring them for the makework programs... Well, did you? Thought so!
Have you not heard the mantra "comprehensive reform" that has started again? have you not heard amnesty for the illegals currently here? Have you not heard the whining "we can't deport the millions already here" so if you don't deport 'em then make 'em go to the back of the line what exactly ARE you doing? Hmmmm?
Did you miss the latest order stopping workplace raids? Did you MISS completely the part of the porkulus that stops employers from having to use EVerify to check status of workers before hiring them for the makework programs... Well, did you? Thought so!
Whew you are all over the place..slow down and wait for an answer you may learn something.
1. The "comprehensive reform" Act of 2007 that you've pointed out, yes i have heard of it and everyone from the congress to the Senate to the former administration now to the new administration have been struggling with a workable reform. I believe we're all on the same page that the reform for illegals is that they need to go back.
2. There were no orders to stop deportation, just the mid night seperation of parents and children. again same page they have to go.
2. Amnesty, same thing except the past as well as the current amnesty talks involve a work program that would allow them to work their way to amnesty...again, same page, they need to go back.
but here's the issue that is the concern, the illegals US born children, that is the stick in everyone's crawl.
3. You twisted the E-Verify item and the stimulus bill (hopefully this was a oops because you were going so fast) but the bill did not include wording to stop employers from using E-Verify, actually there was no funding built in to help employers to pay for the verifications.
So to answer your questions, no i haven't heard of any of the things you typed above as they were inaccurate. but good try
A few billion here, a trillion there, another few billion here -- Obama believes in increasing our debt, spending money like there's no tomorrow. He'll throw billions at Mexico and every other country that wants handouts from us.
We're not ever going to pay down the debt. Might as well give Mexico $10 trillion and just keep upping the debt.
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
39,031 posts, read 23,023,210 times
Reputation: 36027
Quote:
Originally Posted by EasilyAmused
Giving 700 million another country to fix THEIR problems is not helping OUR economy. It won't even help them put a dent in the Drug Cartel problem.
700 million employing border patrol, more check point throughout border states, and building more observations towers on the US side......at least that employs and defends.Yeah, we need to defend ourselves from the country we woo constantly.
We've been so lax about Mexico and the border for decades, nothing is going to fix it short of an armed standoff at the border.
I agree. How is providing MORE money to Mexico going to change their corrupt government system. You cannot just THROW money at a problem and expect it to magically disappear! If any money needs to be spent, it is to reinforce border security!
Hey, 50 years a cali resident................east bay (orinda) sf. bay to far north coast, I like what cali has to offer, but Im calling my home now another place. I can still go back but let the terminator deal with cali and I will be a visitor in my rv. LOL BCNU
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
39,031 posts, read 23,023,210 times
Reputation: 36027
Quote:
Originally Posted by kb09
The problem that many fail to realize is this: we are the reason for most of Mexico's current problems. It is us (as in the U.S.) that buy more drugs from Mexico than any other country. The drug cartels wouldn't have nearly as much power as they do now if we didn't give them our money!
Now that being said, I don't think we should throw away 700 million dollars to the Mexican government that is falling apart at the seams (the sad thing is, the Mexican government has a really good constitution...it's just not - or cannot be - enforced). This is just a cover and a front for the real underlying problem: our drug habit.
If we simply legalize the drug(s), we put the drug cartels out of business overnight. Problem is solved without sending insane amounts of money to Mexico and without stacking a ridiculous amount of troops at the border (which would cost a pretty penny to do so).
Throwing money at the problem never solved anything. It only creates more problems and leaves the money thrower - i.e. us - in even more debt.
I'm sick and tired of Mexico's problems being blamed on the US. Drug use is mostly frown upon in the US and is illegal so how can you blame the US for Mexico's drug cartel problem? If Mexico's government had created an environment that allowed its citizens to prosper and flourish like we have in the US, then there would not be so many desperate citizens who resort to a life of crime to improve their lot in life! If our nation's druggies really drove the demand, then why doesn't the US or Canada have the whole drug cartel issues that Mexico has? Simply, the US and Canada does not have the level of corruption that is the legacy of Mexican government!
Just send Chuck Norris down there. Problem solved.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.