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Old 03-25-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Okay, here's a scary thought - reality? - thought....

If you were watching the market struggle along today you noticed the sag at 1 pm and the dive at 2. Why did this happen? Consider this: it was the disappointing - and ominous - results of two government debt auctions in the UK and the US.
The United States and most other nations will try to spend their way out of this recession by raising money by selling debt, like today's auction of Treasuries. This is a fine plan -- as long as there is demand for the debt.

If there isn't, then where will the recovery money come from?
The Ticker - What Killed the Market Rally Today? - Economy Watch *



Thawts?
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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A mini-version of this may be starting to play out now concerning consumer borrowing - if no one has any money, it doesnt matter how low you set interest rares.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Thawts?
Bond Market To Bernanke and Obama: F&$k You - The Market Ticker
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Obama, Geithner, and Bernanke are making a lot of missteps.

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Old 03-25-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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I just know that I was never able to get out of debt by spending more. I only did better by paying off what I owed.. and by not buying more until then.

But I do hope the stock market recovers for everyone that has their retirement in there...
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Geithner - when he somewhat agreed with China's idea about the dollar - that's exactly what did it.

The obama Amateur Hour continues.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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I just know that I was never able to get out of debt by spending more. I only did better by paying off what I owed.. and by not buying more until then.

But I do hope the stock market recovers for everyone that has their retirement in there...
Why don' they get this concept
How is obama going to cut the deficit while spending like a drunken sailor on leave.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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I just know that I was never able to get out of debt by spending more. I only did better by paying off what I owed.. and by not buying more until then.

But I do hope the stock market recovers for everyone that has their retirement in there...
The most immediate goal is not to get out of debt.
The immediate goal is to get the economy growing again.

And cutting spending (republican plan?) is not going to help with that goal.

Long term, yes.
Lets cut spending or increase tax revenues - whatever it takes.
But I'd like to wait on that until the economy has a more optimistic outlook.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The most immediate goal is not to get out of debt.
The immediate goal is to get the economy growing again.

And cutting spending (republican plan?) is not going to help with that goal.

Long term, yes.
Lets cut spending or increase tax revenues - whatever it takes.
But I'd like to wait on that until the economy has a more optimistic outlook.
"Buy now, pay later."

More voodoo Keynesian retard "economics" at work.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:35 PM
 
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Why don' they get this concept
How is obama going to cut the deficit while spending like a drunken sailor on leave.
This is about two debt auctions.

compjockey may be speaking for other countries and corporations here:
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But I'd like to wait on that until the economy has a more optimistic outlook.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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"Buy now, pay later."

More voodoo Keynesian retard "economics" at work.
Haha, we've been doing the Buy now, pay later deal for how long?

The time to find strict fiscal responsibility is not when we're on the edge of a depression - unless you'd like to assure a depression, of course.

And besides, deficits don't matter, right?
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter," - Cheney.
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