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Old 03-26-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Atyourbest's thread about gay segregation reminded me of the 1987 document published in the United States congressional record entitled the Homosexual Manifesto. It reads like this.

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We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.

Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too and only man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand with depth and feeling the mind and body of another man.

All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men.

All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically, and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy.

If you dare to cry ******, fairy, *****, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens.

We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads.

Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through the devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.

We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.

There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you.

We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.

All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and aesthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough.

The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men. We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions.

We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man.

We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:01 PM
 
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Atyourbest's thread about gay segregation reminded me of the 1987 document published in the United States congressional record entitled the Homosexual Manifesto. It reads like this.



Thoughts?
My thread had absolutely nothing to do with this.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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My thread had absolutely nothing to do with this.
Maybe not, but what you said surely reminded me of it, especially when you go beyond simply attacking religious bigotry and start attacking straight people themselves. The homosexual manifesto is a dream of the oppressed becoming the oppressors.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:10 PM
 
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My thread had absolutely nothing to do with this.
Pay no attention to bchris.

This person has no intention of wanting to understand and over reacts to everything that might give gays/lesbians more rights.

Everything has to revolve around church or God.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Pay no attention to bchris.

This person has no intention of wanting to understand and over reacts to everything that might give gays/lesbians more rights.

Everything has to revolve around church or God.
I live in an area where gays are heavily mistreated, called dogs, animals, lepers, you name it, and even physically threatened for coming out of the closet. Homophobia like that is contagious.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:18 PM
 
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I live in an area where gays are heavily mistreated, called dogs, animals, lepers, you name it, and even physically threatened for coming out of the closet. Homophobia like that is contagious.
?

What's your angle with this response. Are you kidding?
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Can you provide a link to a reputable source for this? I searched quickly, and only saw links to blogs with suspicious names, and to Free Republic, God Hates ****, etc.

I'm thinking this is an urban legend. It certainly reads like something written by a homophobe. Sort of a "Protocols of the Elders" thing.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Can you provide a link to a reputable source for this? I searched quickly, and only saw links to blogs with suspicious names, and to Free Republic, God Hates ****, etc.

I'm thinking this is an urban legend. It certainly reads like something written by a homophobe. Sort of a "Protocols of the Elders" thing.
Michael Swift's "Gay Manifesto"
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Thanks for pointing to an unbiased source. There's no entry for it in Wikipedia, even.

Why did you leave out the preamble? That explains that the essay is meant to be a meditation on how oppressed people long to be in the reversed role. That seems to put the entire thing in a totally different light - and it makes discussion between rational people worthwhile.

Without the preamble, it's a hate document. Some will say it reflects badly on gays, and others will think it's fake (as I did). It only makes sense to include the preamble.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:35 PM
 
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It only makes sense to include the preamble.
Which is precisely why he/she omitted it.
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