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Old 03-27-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Families cannot carry debt at 25 to 30% credit card rates but a nation can carry a nearly unlimited amount at 2% treasury interest. This spending, although misdirected by the Republicans, to bail out failed speculators, will keep the economy afloat and give it, and us, time to recover from the loss of the trillions of speculative value that was never there.

Now if we really want to save some money, and some honor, we can summarily fire all the mercenaries we have hired to do our dirty work. Then we can work at getting some of the DOD absurdities under control. We need a lot more butter and bridges than we need bullets.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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Let me ask you a question.

Tell me, what do you know about Obama's Chief of Staff?

What is his name?

He has dual citizenship with ____?

What did he send in the mail to someone he hated?

What does he want 18-25 year olds and seniors to do?

What did he want to use the train systems for?
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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Obama has made the US lose even more credibility.

He insulted the UK Prime Minister. Who gave Obama a fantastic expensive gift. Obama gave the UK PM a short amount of time and kept looking away. Obama's gift? A box of 25 DVD's that weren't even in English format!

Obama wrote a letter to the French President talking about how he hopes he'll have a good 4 years to work with the. One problem. Obama wrote his letter to Chirac who's been out of office for a couple of years. The President of France is Sarkozy!!!

Obama sent Hillary Clinton with a stupid plastic red button that was supposed to symbolize "reseting" our relationship with the Russians. One problem. Instead of saying "reset" on the button, it said, "overcharge!". The Russian media spent a week ridiculing Obama's regime over it.

He's an embarrassment.

So leave this country and stop whining like some grown up kindergarten problem child.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:39 AM
 
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I'm not disputing the amount of the debt or even denying that the spending is too much, but where is the alternative. Everyone is complaining, but there has not been any alternative presented by the Republicans, just a blue print of an alternative. Two things we know from sure from that doc, 10% tax cut for income below $100K and 25% tax cut for everyone else.
...but where is the alternative, you ask. Budgets/spending bills originate in the House of Representatives regardless of who wants to spend the money where. If this is the best Congress can do, regardless of party then that Congress needs to be replaced.

Repeat... CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED

My preference would be with 535 Libertarians.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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You posted the same thing but didn't answer the question. How much did the stock market loose in 2008?
Wrong question, how much did the stock market loose since Democrats have taken over Congress? Thats the right question...
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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It would be one thing if US citizens owned all our Fed debt but China and other countries keep buying more and more of our debt.

China will continue buying U.S. government debt while paying close attention to possible fluctuations in the value of those assets, a vice governor of Beijing's central bank said Monday.
Business & Technology | Official says China to continue buying US debt | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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The Congressional Budget Office says:

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The Obama administration has promised to reduce the $1 trillion-plus deficit it inherited, which its proposals would do through 2012.

But over 10 years, the president's proposed budget would increase the cumulative deficit by $9.3 trillion relative to current law, according to CBO. Battle begins over federal budget - Mar. 25, 2009
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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Wrong question, how much did the stock market loose since Democrats have taken over Congress? Thats the right question...
Wait what is this? I thought i was on your ignore list?
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I just think it's fantastic that my credit line was dropped from 13K to 5K, after making perfect payments for 5 years.

Consumerism is dead!
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Wrong question, how much did the stock market loose since Democrats have taken over Congress? Thats the right question...
You automatically lose a debate when you use the word loose to mean lose. Can't play favorites on this one.
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