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Old 03-27-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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What is your opinion about the possible creation of a North American Union? Basically, the US, Canada and Mexico would function as one, borders would be erased, and Americans, Canadians and Mexicans would be able to live and work in any of the 3 countries. I have heard some good arguments pro and against the idea but I wanted to hear some more.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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If the constitution of the USA is carried over to encompass all of the "union", I wouldnt see much ultimate harm. There would undoubtedly be some unintended unhappy consequences, but there have been many in the past as well. And the world seems to keep spinning on it's axis like it always did, and we all move on....
IMHO, once an excuse is found to scrap the constitution, much woe will follow.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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I don't see a benefit for the US in becoming one with Canada and Mexico. Truthfully, Canada wouldn't benefit either. Mexico would, and frankly I don't think we could handle their current drug cartel problems.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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From a Constitutional perspective, there are quite a few things that are laudable regarding individual rights and freedoms in the constitutions of all three countries with none holding any generalized superiority over the other. But from an economic perspective, mismatch between the 9th and 21st largest national economies joining with the 83rd, based upon GDP per person, isn't the best idea.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Terrible idea and I will not accept it. Totally unconstitutional for one thing. It would be a disaster in so many ways, economically, politically, with our rights being stripped away in some cases, foreigners having too much influence over us....
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Totally unconstitutional for one thing.

There is nothing unconstitutional about it. If the American people decided to amend or shiite can the entire Constitution and start anew there is nothing within the Constitution to prohibit such an action. But having said that, it would be a really dumb idea at this point to do so. Perhaps if Mexico were to develop its economy to such a degree whereby the average Mexican enjoyed the same standard of living as Americans and Canadians, who knows and maybe in 200 years it might happen but it isn't anything worth serious discussion at this point.

(I don't consider this a serious discussion so we can keep debating the issue for entertainment value)
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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There is nothing unconstitutional about it. If the American people decided to amend or shiite can the entire Constitution and start anew there is nothing within the Constitution to prohibit such an action. But having said that, it would be a really dumb idea at this point to do so. Perhaps if Mexico were to develop its economy to such a degree whereby the average Mexican enjoyed the same standard of living as Americans and Canadians, who knows and maybe in 200 years it might happen but it isn't anything worth serious discussion at this point.

(I don't consider this a serious discussion so we can keep debating the issue for entertainment value)
I don't think it would be done in the form of an amendment but attempted through treaties. The globalists haven't had much luck in Europe when putting things to a vote there.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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I don't think it would be done in the form of an amendment but attempted through treaties. The globalists haven't had much luck in Europe when putting things to a vote there.
Interesting argument...

On further thought, perhaps a treaty would be sufficient since a treaty ratified by the Senate does become the law of the land. The crux would lie in those aspects of the treaty that conflicted with the Constitution, primarily the Bill of Rights, although a cursory look over the Canadian and Mexican constitutions reveal far more similarities than differences.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Bad.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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I agree, bad.
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