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Best post on this thread ^.
I am a very conservative in some ways and a bit liberal in other ways and I watch all the news stations. I generally vote republican but no freaking news station is going to influence my vote in any way.
Name calling is a very good way to cause folks to turn the name caller off.
Exactly; I think very few people are swayed strongly in one direction or another by news networks. The truth is that most people watch the network that reflects their views; conservatives will tend to watch Fox more while liberals are more likely to watch MSNBC. The network one watches doesn't determine their ideology, their ideology determines the network they watch. There are, of course, exceptions (moderates may be more open to being swayed) but I think that this is generally the rule.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This immaturity makes it so people just won't take you or your arguments seriously; if you can't provide smart, substantive analysis and must resort to ad hominem insults that lack any sound reasoning then... well, you aren't going to convince anyone, that's for sure.
I am a left-wing Social Democrat who believes that Fox News is an awful, partisan network that regularly misconstrues the news for political ends. That being said, I would be happy to see the phrase 'Faux News' banned, along with phrases like 'Obamabots' and all the rest. Such name calling is extremely immature; it amounts to ad hominem attacks which take away from serious, substantive debate and degrade the civility of honest debate. Those who regularly use such phrases need to grow up and realize that when you use such terminology you only undermine your own arguments by making yourself look juvenile. We may disagree, we may disagree vehemently, but lets do so in a respectful manner; stay civil people!
Excellent post. Although I don't agree about banning any speech on this forum (except truly vulgar profanity and vile, personal attacks) I gave you Rep points for it--and I rarely give rep points to left-wingers. Consider that the highest of compliments.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This immaturity makes it so people just won't take you or your arguments seriously; if you can't provide smart, substantive analysis and must resort to ad hominem insults that lack any sound reasoning then... well, you aren't going to convince anyone, that's for sure.
Reasoning, there is plenty of reason to be unhappy with the man in the WH. If you cannot see what he is doing then you have some major issues going on.
Excellent post. Although I don't agree about banning any speech on this forum (except truly vulgar profanity and vile, personal attacks) I gave you Rep points for it--and I rarely give rep points to left-wingers. Consider that the highest of compliments.
Why thank you! I enjoy debating, but I strongly believe that debating should be civil and should, therefore, avoid juvenile name-calling. Petty insults take away from substantive conversations, it only serves to anger people and take attention away from the actual issues of interest. Perhaps its because I'm an academic, but I simply don't have respect or time for people who can't formulate their thoughts in a relatively polite and intelligent manner. I cringe every time I see someone write something like 'Faux News' and I usually pretty much write them off as someone who is deflecting from the actual debate because they don't know enough about it. I can understand it to a degree if the person doing it is a kid, as I'm sure some posters here are, but its particularly infuriating when adults resort to such tactics.
Reasoning, there is plenty of reason to be unhappy with the man in the WH. If you cannot see what he is doing then you have some major issues going on.
And here we go again; have you not read my other responses to this thread? You may disagree with the way our President is running the country, you likely have legitimate concerns. So, instead of resorting to ad hominem, childish insults why don't you actually articulate your views in a mature manner. Name-calling is for high school students; if you want to have an actual political discussion you need to show some civility and respect if you want to be taken seriously. Thus far you have referred to the president as 'faux' and you have insulted me, yet in doing so you have utterly failed to provide any substantive discussion whatsoever! It's impossible to debate with someone like that; if you can't have a logical, reasonable discussion then its not worth discussing anything with you at all. I know plenty of conservatives who I strongly disagree with, yet consider friends and enjoy discussing politics with because they, and I, are capable of doing so without resorting to childish insults. The world is too complex, our problems too serious, to be so simplistic as to think petty insults like 'faux' and 'you have some major issues' are legitimate comments for debate.
No more than Obamination, Obots, etc. should be banned.
Have a problem with free speech these days?
Might want to look up the word faux, it fits (even if it is French).
The funny thing is, I hear the left often say faux, pronouning the X so it sounds similar. Do they realize that it makes them look even more irrational and stupid?
The X is silent.
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