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I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
What is the benefit the country will get for this new tax?
I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
Answer one better first, if I can CHOOSE to pay the extra .5%, and it was important to me, then why would I not already have made the choice to give?
I dont need to VOTE to give money, I have a checkbook and can and will write one out for the causes I believe in.
I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
I very much appreciate your attempts to draw this issue out in the open. My feeling on this subject is that I have always made this sacrafice to my country, sometimes by going along with a plan that was to the detriment of the many. Personal accountability--- even though I did not ever vote for Bush, I sat down in the back of the bus with my mouth shut obediently. I was very wrong to do that, and I apologize for my lax citizenship duties.
That said if I were to reframe your question, I'd want the caveat added that the plan itself is sound and that it in no way undermines individual rights protected by the constitution. It's NOT just a piece of paper, and any argument that presumes that loses immediately in my book.
Its a hypothetical. You KNOW deep down that a portion of the country will benefit and all you have to make is a little financial sacrifice.
I'd give up 100% if I thought it would help. But, it would never be enough for some people. What's mine is theirs and what's theirs is theirs. I'm quite serious, that's the way I see a large % of Americans.
I'd start over with zero in a place where everyone takes responsibility for their own lives and their decisions.
I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
no, lower the taxes I say, get rid of some welfare program to pay for it. the goverment is already taking too much of my money and not using it wisely.
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I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
I have no problems making some sacrifices for the betterment of the US, but I don't trust our politicians to use my tax dollars wisely as they don't really serve the everyday citizen.
I'm just curious. What would it take for people to take a little loss for the betterment of the country? Some people give up their lives in the hope that they benefit their countrymen and I think they are an example for all of us.
I honestly don't know where I stand on this myself, but it seemed like a good idea for a thread and a poll. Especially as we seem to become more polarized.
So here's the hypothetical situation (sorry for the ambiguity but I want to try to avoid politicizing it)
Lets say on the ballot there was a measure able to benefit the population of the country as a whole, but you have to pay an extra .5% tax. This just means you can't go out to eat as much, but you know a large portion of the country will benefit. How many would have to benefit for you to vote for it?
Then ask yourself, "If we can allow our troops to go overseas and die to protect us, why can't I sacrifice more?"
Sacrificing for the TROOPS is very different than sacrificing for those who 1) overspend until they are so in debt they can't get out 2) live on welfare 3) have no interest in a job or 4) are illegals.
You would want us to sacrifice for any warm body in the country
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