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What about the black multiple felon out on parole in Oakland, the one who killed not 3 but 4 cops!!! I wonder if that "African American" cop-killing criminal visited right wing websites?
(Remember the one who was cheered on by his fellow city dwellers after his death ?) Talk about hypocrisy.
What about the black multiple felon out on parole in Oakland, the one who killed not 3 but 4 cops!!! I wonder if that "African American" cop-killing criminal visited right wing websites?
(Remember the one who was cheered on by his fellow city dwellers after his death ?) Talk about hypocrisy.
Why not deal with the thread topic? The guy acted because he believed what he was told by right wing websites and who knows where else - that Obama was going to take his guns away.
So I suppose this claim that the right was responsible for this heinous crime is false? It would appear to be so due to your wiki argument.
BTW, Nazism was a Socialist movement (left wing). Your article does not address Nazism, it pertains to another sect entirely.
I do give you credit for a nice try to deflect the argument in another direction, however.
I beg your pardon. I was answering someone's claim that the Nazi Party was left wing because it had "Socialist" in its title.
I skipped past the obvious wikipedia entry, but here is a quote from it: "The Nazi Party is generally described as being at the extreme or far right of the left-right political axis; however in two dimensional models, such as the political compass, the Nazi Party is categorized alongside both radical left-wing and radical right-wing parties as authoritarian.[5]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
And yikes, I dont deflect.
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The problem I have with your theory is that paleo conservatives have very much distanced themselves from these extremist elements, while neos have embraced them within what appears to be their voter base to the rest of us standing outside the fray. Just an observation. I chalked it up to them hiding behind your flag, but then I read this...
YepWe Are Right!
That doesn't really work for America, or for the constitution. It only works for the me me me's having a mid life crisis. That was never what the republican party was about, but what a shame to see it laid so low. Everyone who disagrees with you isn't a liberal. Your behavior is symptom of your party illness.
And you know what my "party" is? Noooo, lol, I'm not a Republican. Not a Libertarian either....guess again. My We Are Right blurb is not some extemist call to arms by the way. It's making a point as to how serous disagreements are being solved these days. left, right middle wherever, everboby is ready to go to feudin'. . There doesn't seem to be any common ground to agree on anything anymore. Repuclicans hate Democrats, Democrats hate Republicans "neocons" "liberals" blah blah blah. Just to set the record straight I ain't none of the above. I am a father, a husband, and my "party" affiliation goes no further than that. Personally, I see no difference in what this clown did in ambushing the cops, and any other violent crime. Pinning his mental deficiancies on "right wing websites" and his fear of Obama() is just flat idiotic. The guy was a loon, who cares what his ...politics? were?
NVplumb I have no party affiliation either. The party I belong in doesn't actually exist yet. I agree the nasty hype going back and forth is very destructive. What I'm saying is each side needs to cool their jets. Right never seems to want to take responsibility for anything going on in their realm to their own detriment. Posters from the right in this thread are outright lying. When they abuse free speech it hurts everyone, including those who do support 2nd amendment rights.
Equal time for left extremists-- when you're putting poison in the minds of minorities making them believe that I've spent my lifetime conspiring against them with hatred, or selling the story that because I'm religious I've entitled myself to abuse gay people as if westboro baptist, that is equivalent to putting a threat on my life. I have no qualms about killing anyone with deadly intent toward my person, and people dictate to me who they are by how they approach me. When extremists overzealously attempt to rally support people do go over the top. They do sell stories to weak minds that go off half cocked with rage.
My life is equally threatened in an LA riot sponsored by left wing extremists as it is by wackaloon gun nuts on the right. Key word extremists. When they're hiding out in your organization you need to police your own or suffer discredit.
The right to free speech should not be abused anymore than the right to bear arms. Responsible people only, and if you can't manage that, you lose your right and shall suffer penalty.
Why not deal with the thread topic? The guy acted because he believed what he was told by right wing websites and who knows where else - that Obama was going to take his guns away.
The guy killed 3 cops because he was mentally ill. What he did is not logical. Trying to connect the dots of an insane person who went on a killing spree by saying he was trying to defend his 2nd Amendment rights is pathetic. He was sick, and fell through the cracks of the system.
The left wing wackos somehow correlate "believing obama wanted to take his guns"(not yet confirmed)=randomly shooting 3 police officers as a sane individual and hence all people that believe the same will suddenly start shooting randomly.
Obviously to randomly gun down 3 citizens for no cause, no matter what the individual believed, the guy is a wacko.
Why not deal with the thread topic? The guy acted because he believed what he was told by right wing websites and who knows where else - that Obama was going to take his guns away.
No, the comparison made was fair and quite on topic. I see no real difference in the two incidents. Both were vermin, both killed police officers, yet one is deifyed and one is demonized. The Oakland shooting just does not give the left a whipping post and a direction to point fingers. Other than that, the incidents are quite comparable and the outcomes were the same....dead cops.
The guy killed 3 cops because he was mentally ill. What he did is not logical. Trying to connect the dots of an insane person who went on a killing spree by saying he was trying to defend his 2nd Amendment rights is pathetic. He was sick, and fell through the cracks of the system.
Plenty of people who believe just the same as he does - that Obama is going to take their guns away and leave them defenseless. Where do they all get this notion? Right wing propaganda sources.
Thus these threads are in the Politics forum and not the Mental Health forum.
No, the comparison made was fair and quite on topic. I see no real difference in the two incidents. Both were vermin, both killed police officers, yet one is deifyed and one is demonized. The Oakland shooting just does not give the left a whipping post and a direction to point fingers. Other than that, the incidents are quite comparable and the outcomes were the same....dead cops.
So the Oakland guy's reasons for shooting would be a different thread, and an interesting one. What motivated the Oakland guy?
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. There doesn't seem to be any common ground to agree on anything anymore
. Repuclicans hate Democrats, Democrats hate Republicans "neocons" "liberals" blah blah blah. Just to set the record straight I ain't none of the above
. I am a father, a husband, and my "party" affiliation goes no further than that. Personally, I see no difference in what this clown did in ambushing the cops, and any other violent crime. Pinning his mental deficiancies on "right wing websites" and his fear of Obama(
) is just flat idiotic. The guy was a loon, who cares what his ...politics? were?
. The Oakland shooting just does not give the left a whipping post and a direction to point fingers. Other than that, the incidents are quite comparable and the outcomes were the same....dead cops.
