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Old 04-05-2009, 10:38 PM
 
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83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
Hmmmmmm???? Think about that for a minute with your own mind.
Says who? FAUX Entertainment News? Paleeeeze...
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:46 PM
 
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Your funny. So let me ask you a question. When has FAUX Entertainment News have ever ever won an award in journalism. You know like a little thing called a Nobel Prize, how about the Edward R. Murrow award in Journalism?

You are a shill. Since when did they start giving out the Nobel prize for Journalism? Krugman? LMAO. You are a cut-and-paste machine. No substance. March on, little soldier, march on.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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You are a shill. Since when did they start giving out the Nobel prize for Journalism? Krugman? LMAO. You are a cut-and-paste machine. No substance. March on, little soldier, march on.
Cut & Paste? It must really torque your chain. Go back to your award winning FAUX Entertainment News...
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:16 PM
 
Location: toronto, Canada
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Why would the Mexican drug cartels, which last year grossed between $17 billion and $38 billion, bother buying single-shot rifles, and force thousands of unknown "straw" buyers in the U.S. through a government background check, when they can buy boatloads of fully automatic M-16s and assault rifles from China, Israel or South Africa?
Some guns are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river.
Many of the fully automatic weapons that have been seized in Mexico cannot be found in the U.S, but they are not uncommon in the Third World.
Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semi-automatic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, this according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:16 AM
 
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Why would the Mexican drug cartels, which last year grossed between $17 billion and $38 billion, bother buying single-shot rifles, and force thousands of unknown "straw" buyers in the U.S. through a government background check, when they can buy boatloads of fully automatic M-16s and assault rifles from China, Israel or South Africa?
Some guns are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river.
Many of the fully automatic weapons that have been seized in Mexico cannot be found in the U.S, but they are not uncommon in the Third World.
Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semi-automatic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, this according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.
Absolutely. The misinformation just adds to the ridiculous misuse of the "assault rifle" term by people that don't know what they're talking about.

The cartels are getting the real stuff, not look-alikes, and you don't get those over the counter at Guns 'R Us or at gunshows here in the US.

You need to jump through Federal hoops for guns like they're getting. Somehow I don't see gangsters bothering with such legalities.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Too many people are repeating this 90% number like its fact. That's half the problem.

Dukester, just because you don't care for a particular news source doesn't mean your favored source is any better in someone else's opinion, or more importantly, more accurate. In this case, too many media sources have been quoting numbers incorrectly.
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:44 AM
 
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I was going to say that the gun running from America to Mexico being 90% of their source for weapons has been totally debunked and exposed as pure lies and propaganda. You have to wonder what else the administration is wrong about or just making up. Global warming, health care, taxes, spending, bailouts, .....
What is the sudden need to invent a crisis down there? It's been going on for years, two decades at least anyway. Instead of focusing on guns which is a symptom and not the problem, what about focusing on the causes of the violence? Corruption in the government, drug dealing, illegal immigration, poverty, economic instability? Our state department seems to be disinterested in the facts of the situation and only focusing on making political gains out of it. But thats par for the course.
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