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Wow. There are some amazingly ignorant posts and amazingly paranoid posts on this thread -- disturbing...no wonder the guy has had 500 death threats so far already.
Why dont you people let go of the fearmongering propaganda and try to learn something.
Ironically, we could have told you to let go of the fear mongering propaganda for the past 8 years and you wouldn't have listened.
There was quite a bit to fear during the Bush Admin, from the invasion of Iraq and the development of hostility against us from nearly every country in the world to the burgeoning of the current financial crisis -- all of which Obama is trying to fix.
Is it actually necessary to note at this point that "destruction of the US" would have been an example of "staying the course" that Bushie had led us along? Are there ever circumstances under which right-wingers take the reality of the world into consideration?
As for the poll, even a casual glance over the numbers will show that the trends are defined by the far greater degrees to which those described as Democrats display a willingness to give the other guy an honest chance.
Republican approval of Obama today is reported at 27%. Their approval of Bill Clinton at the same point in his Presidency was 26%. The difference between the two Presidents arises entirely from the approval ratings of Democrats -- 88% for Obama versus 71% for Clinton. At the same point in the more recent Bush's Presidency meanwhile, 87% of Republicans approved of him, but so did 36% of Democrats.
What these numbers show is that, much like right-wingers on C-D, Republicans as a group have a far greater tendency to behave like a bunch of mindless, partisan knee-jerks, while Democrats are the ones more likely to adopt a considerate, wait-and-see approach, sort of like what actual intelligent people might do...
Did you really just use a 10% difference in partisanship polling numbers (26% vs. 36%) to proclaim that Democrats are more "considerate, wait-and-see" versus "partisan knee-jerk Republicans"? That's the most outrageous claim I have ever heard!!! Maybe the dumbed-down Democrats on this forum will fall for that bullshat, but anyone with any measure of gray matter between their ears will know that an oppositional approval rating in the 20 and 30 percentile range is nothing more than the same partisanship that you rail against! I can't believe you went there Sag. Your attempt to make a point out of absolutely nothing is beyond farcical.
Hey, while we're comparing stupidity, Congressional Approval ratings went from 20% to 30%! That fine group of people must be doing something right according to your moronic philosophy!
The sad thing is that your loyal followers agree with you.
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There was quite a bit to fear during the Bush Admin, from the invasion of Iraq and the development of hostility against us from nearly every country in the world to the burgeoning of the current financial crisis -- all of which Obama is trying to fix.
Listen to yourself. Where do you get this crap?
Bush had tremendous cooperation from nearly every country in the world - not counting those run by dictators, genociders and petty criminals - in fighting the war on terror. The coordination and cooperation from intelligence agencies around the world has saved many lives.
I am not surprised. Obviously, the destruction of the US was not the "change" some (R)'s and Indies voted for.
Well, after eight years of Bush and Clinton before that I seriously doubt Obama can be considered for that title. Give it more time and who knows, either people will approve of his actions or not, but at this point there has not been enough time to descide or make such statements. As for destroying our economy, that has yet to be seen, and if he did then we were doomed with either Party, since Obama is just continuing what Bush did and McCain was a Bush clone.
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Did you really just use a 10% difference in partisanship polling numbers (26% vs. 36%) to proclaim that Democrats are more "considerate, wait-and-see" versus "partisan knee-jerk Republicans"? That's the most outrageous claim I have ever heard!!! Maybe the dumbed-down Democrats on this forum will fall for that bullshat, but anyone with any measure of gray matter between their ears will know that an oppositional approval rating in the 20 and 30 percentile range is nothing more than the same partisanship that you rail against! I can't believe you went there Sag. Your attempt to make a point out of absolutely nothing is beyond farcical.
Hey, while we're comparing stupidity, Congressional Approval ratings went from 20% to 30%! That fine group of people must be doing something right according to your moronic philosophy!
The sad thing is that your loyal followers agree with you.
You are missing Saganista's point. The difference between GOP control and Dem control is that more Dems are willing to support the president under either party. The GOP doesn't budge.
President Obama has reached out many times in bipartisan efforts. The GOP has voted in lockstep against him on many issues. When the GOP is in charge, many more Dems cross the lines to vote with the majority.
Divisiveness is almost purely a GOP phenomenon in our country today.
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You are missing Saganista's point. The difference between GOP control and Dem control is that more Dems are willing to support the president under either party. The GOP doesn't budge.
President Obama has reached out many times in bipartisan efforts. The GOP has voted in lockstep against him on many issues. When the GOP is in charge, many more Dems cross the lines to vote with the majority.
Divisiveness is almost purely a GOP phenomenon in our country today.
Did you really just use a 10% difference in partisanship polling numbers (26% vs. 36%) to proclaim that Democrats are more "considerate, wait-and-see" versus "partisan knee-jerk Republicans"? That's the most outrageous claim I have ever heard!!!
C'mon! You heard the claim that there were WMD in Iraq, just like everybody else. Yellow-cake, aluminum tubes, mushroom clouds, vials of this, ounces of that, mobile weapons labs. All false. Meanwhile, I had supposed most people would realize that 36 is not 2% or 3%, but 38% more than 26. Run any statistical test you want on those data. The difference will stand as significant.
I don't know if President Obama can actually set us on a path to unity, but I know that President Bush certainly did NOT. Not only did he divide the US, as Reagan started the division (into the HAVES and the Have NOTS), but he alienated the US from the rest of the world with his "Make War on EVERYONE" policies.
The "HAVES" (the wealthy) actually ended up paying more of their wages (by percent) in taxes under Reagan than under Carter.
And Reagan's policy was certainly not "make war on everyone." Don't know where you got that from.
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