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Old 04-07-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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Iran hasn't attacked another country in modern history. Much more peaceful than Israel or the USA.
Really? You don't remember them seizing the US embassy and kidnapping people in 1979?
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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Lauchning make-shift homemade rockets that killed a total of 7 Israelies over the course of two years.

For this they killed 1400 Palestinians including 431 children.

What planet are you from? To argue that this was a just response??

431 Children!!
The fact that Hamas does not have very effective rockets does not mean that Israel has to tolerate them being fired at them. You may also want to consider the role Hamas plays in the death of children. If you hide among them, then you put them at risk and bear responsibility. As for the measure of the response, if Hamas doesn't like it, they can quit shooting rockets. That's all Israel wants.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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The fact that Hamas does not have very effective rockets does not mean that Israel has to tolerate them being fired at them. You may also want to consider the role Hamas plays in the death of children. If you hide among them, then you put them at risk and bear responsibility. As for the measure of the response, if Hamas doesn't like it, they can quit shooting rockets. That's all Israel wants.

An argument from a full blown bigot and Israeli apologist.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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An argument from a full blown bigot and Israeli apologist.
You make huge assumptions about me that are false, but I'm not that surprised by the tactic of calling people names when you have a different perspective and run out of things to say.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Lauchning make-shift homemade rockets that killed a total of 7 Israelies over the course of two years.

For this they killed 1400 Palestinians including 431 children.

What planet are you from? To argue that this was a just response??

431 Children!!
So we've now established that the palestinian people make crappy rockets and they're cowards because they will only hide where women and children are.

Those children should be the ones with the beef with the terrorists, because if they weren't firing the rockets from their schools and neighborhoods, they wouldn't be dead.

People like you are exactly why they do this though. You can't see the inherent evil in these people and the fact that they're using these kids to pull at your heart strings and not notice that they're the ones responsible for the kids' deaths.

You're blinded by your emotion and don't have a lick of common sense. You are a terrorist sympathizer.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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The fact that Hamas does not have very effective rockets does not mean that Israel has to tolerate them being fired at them. You may also want to consider the role Hamas plays in the death of children. If you hide among them, then you put them at risk and bear responsibility. As for the measure of the response, if Hamas doesn't like it, they can quit shooting rockets. That's all Israel wants.
Simply the argument of a terrorist, only you use it to justify Israel's murder of children.

Terrorists kill to make political statements. Not to effect a military goal.

We'll just kill 1400 Palestinians to make a "statement". If they will only stop lobbing ineffective rockets...then we will stop punishing them.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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So we've now established that the palestinian people make crappy rockets and they're cowards because they will only hide where women and children are.

Those children should be the ones with the beef with the terrorists, because if they weren't firing the rockets from their schools and neighborhoods, they wouldn't be dead.

People like you are exactly why they do this though. You can't see the inherent evil in these people and the fact that they're using these kids to pull at your heart strings and not notice that they're the ones responsible for the kids' deaths.

You're blinded by your emotion and don't have a lick of common sense. You are a terrorist sympathizer.

Did I not say these wingnuts are bigots? He's claiming most of the 431 Children died because they were used as shields????

He says they are "inherently evil"....and I'm a "terrorist sympathizer" for speaking up about the 431 children.


This is the state of the right wing in American today....bitter haters who justify murder.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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Simply the argument of a terrorist, only you use it to justify Israel's murder.
Terrorists kill to make political statements. Not to effect a military goal.

We'll just kill 1400 Palestinians to make a "statement". If they will only stop lobbing ineffective rockets...then we will stop punishing them.
Israel wants to militarily defeat the people lobbing rockets at them. They go in to do that and are stopped because of the outrage caused when civilians are killed as a result of Hamas hiding among civilians. When Israel pulls back, Hamas continues to indiscrimatly fire rockets into Israel.

You make the argument that "Terrorists kill to make political statements. Not to effect a military goal." You seem to excuse the fact that Hamas fires with no regard for where the weapons go and label Israel as terrorists for their response. Again, I think you're missing how these battles get started and the goal of each side.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Did I not say these wingnuts are bigots? He's claiming most of the 431 Children died because they were used as shields????

He says they are "inherently evil"....and I'm a "terrorist sympathizer" for speaking up about the 431 children.


This is the state of the right wing in American today....bitter haters who justify murder.
Spin, spin, spin. You must be getting dizzy.

Those that have an ounce of common sense understand what I'm saying.

Again, and I'll try to use small words so you'll understand, if terrorists were not hiding in groups of children (kids, if that helps), the kids wouldn't be dead.

If you pick up your son, and ran through traffic, would your dead son be mad at the car for hitting you, or mad at you for being an idiot and involving him in your idiotic ways?
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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Lauchning make-shift homemade rockets that killed a total of 7 Israelies over the course of two years.

For this they killed 1400 Palestinians including 431 children.

What planet are you from? To argue that this was a just response??

431 Children!!
Go and tell Hammas how disgusted you are with their use of human shield tactics. Tell them if they are really interested in peace with their neighbor, then they should stop firing rockets, sending Jihad Joes/Janes into Israel. Tell them to stop spewing anti Christian/Jewish/West propaganda on their state run TV. Tell them to focus on helping people, building schools and hospitals, and not recruiting nutjobs to wear a vest and go in to a crowded area to blow him/herself. Cool?

Let's remember that Israel gave Gaza back to move forward with the peace process only to see radical Muslims ie Hammas use it to launch rockets.
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