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Old 04-07-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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Stupid example, stupid post. You don't know the first thing about Socialism. But if you are interested go here Youth for International Socialism - Marxism FAQ. If you are not, then shut up about Socialism, you are only embarrassing yourself.
No, you are embarrassing yourself. I grew up in a socialist environment. It was the most oppressive of situations. Only a fool would praise it.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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Agreed... cant argue those points. It is however possible to get ahead in our current capitalist(ish) system. It really is. The sacrifice may be large(for me it was years away from home traveling, broke as a joke, and missing the first two years of my sons life). It can be done tho. Be positive and innovative in you pursuits and beat the system. Then infiltrate it and attempt to fix it. Thats what I'm trying anyways.
Sure beats sitting around whining. ^5

Doesn't matter who you are or where you live... cultivation skills have universal applications. Demands will dictate what needs cultivation.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Another cute story... Complete $h!t, but a cute story. Did you loose a promotion to someone more qualified? Are you being oppressed? Didn't get that 100k starting salary you thought you deserved right out of college?
Whats your problem with capitalism? Ive been shot down(couldn't pass due to missing pages). I just worked harder and became better thru other avenues(used google to search for pdfs of pages 30-36 & 45-53). Now I'm ahead of all those people who sat back and cried(people who didn't use google). Plus I'm ahead of the people who where paper tigers and got laid off in the recent waves of layoffs!(the guys who cheated and didn't really know jack).
Sorry you are so angry. Back in the 80s, there were no PCs and there certainly was no "Google"! Believe it or not, we had to go to the libraries!
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:46 PM
 
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when the first pilgrims arrive in massachusetts a collective was formed. they nearly all starved for the same reasons as is in the quotation above. after this fiasco each family was assigned a plot with the provision that they needed to fend for themselves. the result was abundance and what we now call the first thanksgiving.
How many Indians were slaughtered do you think?
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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How many Indians were slaughtered do you think?
Yikes worried about slaughtered Indians in 1620? How about union auto workers 2009? Your man is kicking them to the curb.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Sorry you are so angry. Back in the 80s, there were no PCs and there certainly was no "Google"! Believe it or not, we had to go to the libraries!
My state of mind isn't pure anger. I do get angry tho. Its just another human emotion. Kinda like feeling sarcastic. And yes I am aware there was no google. You are right tho, there where libraries. Hope people used them. However as times and technologies have changed so have the tactics of getting ahead. Which is why i use google and a calculator and not a stone tablet and an abacus. INNOVATION. Attempt it. Over come the obstacles in you way and you will feel much better than if the path was just cleared out for you. Why do you think people like Paris Hilton are left wanting all the time?
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:27 PM
 
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Once upon a time, a certain nation decided that their financial industry was too constrained. "Let the markets decide" became their mantra. CEOs and bigwigs insisted that "Government regulation is strangling us!"

In response, the markets were allowed to grow without restraints and under minimal regulation. More and more exotic and poorly understood "investment instruments" were introduced by financial geniuses. But one day, these bizarre derivatives were found to be hollow shells, sold for many times their real worth.

The free markets demanded that some large investment companies be driven out of business.

"But we're too large to be allowed to fail!", they claimed.

In a gesture of generosity unmatched in the history of civilization, the people rallied behind these companies and socialized the tremendous "free market" debt.

It remains unkown whther or not everyone lived happily ever after.


$30 trillion was lost world wide and we are still better off than the previous 30 years... Now we have technological advances far beyond what most would have imagined in the 50's. Today surgeries are done with technologies born in the military, today we chat back and forth with technologies born in the DoD. And if that doesn't convince you take a little time for yourself and research what the rest of the world did after 1988 with their tax structures and markets and their results...



The NASDAQ is about right on point with where it should be and you can see the dot-com bubble easily.

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Old 04-07-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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They had charity from indians as I recall, so perhaps your stoic notions aren't 100% truthful??
First Thanksgiving - Thanksgiving History - History.com
actually massasoit and company were invited to the feast. as guests they just brought their appetites. the colonists provided the natives four oxen to slaughter aside from the "fixins". thanks for the interesting link though I think the history channel does some shoddy research at times.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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How many Indians were slaughtered do you think?
in the first thanksgiving? none. the europeans employed biological warfare on the natives prior to the first colonies being established.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yikes worried about slaughtered Indians in 1620? How about union auto workers 2009? Your man is kicking them to the curb.
My man? Rush Limbaugh is not my man!

Rush Limbaugh attacks pensions and the American Dream: You should work till you die | Crooks and Liars

Nor is Shelby my man!


YouTube - Richard Shelby on filibustering the auto bailout
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