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Old 04-08-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Glen Beck is a certifiable lunatic.

While he's undeniably a looney wingnut, he's a moneymaker for Fox. They have a large audience of looney wingnuts who think that Beck is a newsman.

It's unlikely that he'll be off the air anytime soon.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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What spin? Show me what spin I spun.

I'll look up a transcript of the sermon for you.

The Sluggite Zone • View topic - God Damn America
So again since you didn't answer the question:
It is OK for black people to have hate toward America (Rev Wright - God D*mn America) but not Glen Beck????? If it was OK for the Rev, it is OK for Glen Beck.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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So again since you didn't answer the question:
It is OK for black people to have hate toward America (Rev Wright - God D*mn America) but not Glen Beck????? If it was OK for the Rev, it is OK for Glen Beck. [End Quote]

It is freedom of speech. We may not like what is said but the ability to say it is inherently American. And yes. Both those men, presumably American citizens, are free to have their opinions.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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So again since you didn't answer the question:
It is OK for black people to have hate toward America (Rev Wright - God D*mn America) but not Glen Beck????? If it was OK for the Rev, it is OK for Glen Beck.
You really need to read the transcript first before you opine about it. Dont be skeered.

(Are you saying Glen Beck has hate for America?)
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:46 PM
 
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I agree. So if he didn't do the shooting, is he responsible for someone else's actions (the shooter) or should he be in trouble for his free speach?
What happens if you go to a movie theater and yell fire? Are you not creating fear? What happens if there are say 6 or 12 people who get trampled to death because of your misdeeds? What happens? Should you not be held accountable? There is a threshold that you cross where it is no longer consider and should be consider free speech. This is just one scenario of many...
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:25 PM
 
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You really need to read the transcript first before you opine about it. Dont be skeered.

(Are you saying Glen Beck has hate for America?)
Beck sure seems to have hate for the Amercian government from what I hear....I don't watch his show. The ignorant Rev just had hate for white America (he was a big racist). Both should enjoy the same freedom of speech, though I don't agree with either.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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What happens if you go to a movie theater and yell fire? Are you not creating fear? What happens if there are say 6 or 12 people who get trampled to death because of your misdeeds? What happens? Should you not be held accountable? There is a threshold that you cross where it is no longer consider and should be consider free speech. This is just one scenario of many...
Yelling fire creates an immediate need for action that would be recognized by any reasonable person who heard it What specifically did Beck say that would make anyone who heard it recognize that they needed to act immediately? My thought is nothing since there isn't widespread action along the lines of what you hold him responsible for being taken based on his statement.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:52 PM
 
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Yelling fire creates an immediate need for action that would be recognized by any reasonable person who heard it What specifically did Beck say that would make anyone who heard it recognize that they needed to act immediately? My thought is nothing since there isn't widespread action along the lines of what you hold him responsible for being taken based on his statement.
And what about the 6 or 12 people who were trampled to death, just curious? You don't see the Wackjob Bachmann calling for arms in the name of sort of a revolt rather dangerous? She is creating an atmosphere for violence.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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Seems to me Obama's good Rev Wright screaming "God D*mn America" was trying to promote violence as well. Obama sat and listened to the Rev Wrights hate. I don't listen to Beck, but can you explain the difference between him spewing and those of Obama's mentor Rev Wright spewing?
Read an American history book.

Considering when Rev. Wright grew up, in a profoundly cruel and racist America, he had every right to say "God D*mn America." Glenn Beck is just a crafty little moron, fomenting rage among the Republican "base" in order to make himself a millionaire. What a bunch of tools his followers are.
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