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04-16-2009, 01:23 AM
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No corporation pledges allegiance to the united states of america. Whatever they do abroad does not represent america, or it's foriegn policy. No, it's not a legit use of force. They want navy escort, let them pay for the navy, or find another route. American business interests are protected INCONUS only, as are it's citizens.
What this should be is UN mission considering it's scope, and if you'd like to pay that price tag it might be time to reconsider just how much global trade is really worth to anyone. These ships need to defend themselves.
Strawman? He was being ironic showing people how inconsistent we are with policy. I happen to agree with him and libertarians on this subject. Try finishing your wars on poverty, drugs, terror, Iraq, and Afghanistan before you make anymore declarations if you don't mind.
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04-16-2009, 02:17 AM
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Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by harborlady
No corporation pledges allegiance to the united states of america. Whatever they do abroad does not represent america, or it's foriegn policy. No, it's not a legit use of force. They want navy escort, let them pay for the navy, or find another route. American business interests are protected INCONUS only, as are it's citizens.
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Sorry but you're wrong about this. The U.S. asserts legal jurisdiction over certain acts committed against U.S. interests anywhere. Piracy is among them. |
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04-16-2009, 10:52 AM
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Location: North San Diego County
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Originally Posted by harborlady
No corporation pledges allegiance to the united states of america. Whatever they do abroad does not represent america, or it's foriegn policy. No, it's not a legit use of force. They want navy escort, let them pay for the navy, or find another route. American business interests are protected INCONUS only, as are it's citizens.
What this should be is UN mission considering it's scope, and if you'd like to pay that price tag it might be time to reconsider just how much global trade is really worth to anyone. These ships need to defend themselves.
Strawman? He was being ironic showing people how inconsistent we are with policy. I happen to agree with him and libertarians on this subject. Try finishing your wars on poverty, drugs, terror, Iraq, and Afghanistan before you make anymore declarations if you don't mind.
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One of the Missions of the US Navy is to protect the Sea Lanes. 
The UN??? HAH??? No thanks.  They're the reason the US & our Alies
have been drawn into Wars.  US out of the UN & UN out of the US!
http://f308.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1305%5fAJPIjkQAAUjPSea3gQkEwQ0QC7 Y&pid=1.2&fid=Trash&inline=1 (broken link) |
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04-16-2009, 02:15 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Wouldn't it be better to help the "free market" in Somalia and find these pirates another way to make a living rather than being a pirate?
I can understand SOME prosecution to send a message that being a pirate may be a quick way to get a LOT of money, it just isn't worth it.
At the same time, a lot of people around the world are hurting and you don't see them going the route of piracy.
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04-18-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Drover
Sorry but you're wrong about this. The U.S. asserts legal jurisdiction over certain acts committed against U.S. interests anywhere. Piracy is among them.
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other countries should do the same to the US and the US has been involved in some serious stuff abroad in other countries interest do you think the US will give up its citizens? NO!
THE ITALIANS barely got a budge from the US regarding the deaths of italians the US response was at first NO! we will not hand them over what kinda of message does that send |
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04-18-2009, 05:43 PM
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Location: southern california
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make a deal with big game hunters sell licenses to bag somali pirates.
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04-18-2009, 06:05 PM
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Location: NE Ohio
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it was unecessary....there werent gonna kill him, they may kill hostages now since what happen a few days ago
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What makes you think they weren't?
This situation demands a strong military response, just as the Barbary Pirates activities did. These are just modern day Barbary Pirates. We need to blow their boat/ships out of the water, and blow up their ports.
This isn't game time. It's serious. They are a threat to shipping. They only understand force. Give it to them. |
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