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Wellll.... at least due to this thread we have a pretty good idea of who here has sticky keyboards & spends a bit of cash on "hand lotion" !
I wasn't going to open myself up to ridicule,but I had a sudden burst of
"I don't give a *$%^ !"
Porn HAS ruined my marriage, period. I discovered my husband had a porn adiction before the wedding, & he swore,promised to give it up for me, as I made it totally clear I wouldn't have it in the house,didn't want it around my kids,he had the choice: Porn or Me.
Well, it wasn't long until I learned what his choice was, & began finding magaznes hidden. He'd apologize & swear he'd not do it again. He lied. His addiction was so bad, he couldn't even achieve satisfaction w/ normal relations,as he was so used to going solo. Kept lying,kept hiding it. Even when we were so broke we could barely afford food for our 3 kids, he'd still buy porn. And lie about it. Hide it,throw a fit when I confronted him about it. Constantly lying,hiding,sneaking around.
I can't trust him, as honesty is VERY important to me. He has used the excuse that I don't give him enough sex ,but that is total BS, as we were going at it almost daily when I made my first "discovery" of his porn stash. And when we moved here a few years ago, we had vowed to make a fresh start in the new house. We were so happy, until I found a HUGE box of REALLY hard-core porn in the barn. I was so hurt, it was dated for the past year, & as I helped pack everything, he purposely schemed to fool me again... the lying,dishonesty, hiding & sneaking around just makes me sick.
We've been married 7 years,& it's been pure Hell for the most part. I feel so betrayed,like he'd rather get sexual satisfaction from a zillion other women than ME. I feel like a nobody, and there's no way I could compete w/ those women w/ all the plastic surgery & silicone. He is always complementing me, but no matter how much I know he desires ME, I still can't bring myself to "share" my man,regardless of HOW.
Hell, I admit I do lust after other men at times,of course,it's only natural. HOWEVER, I do NOT lie & hide things,spend money that we don't have, and break his heart due to MY lust. I have evolved,I can control it.
I have asked him several times to get help, he gets mad & refuses. I SOOO want a divorce,and was about to start the process when in Feb of 07 I discovered one of our VERY rare occasions we had sex,the birth control failed. Now we have a 21 month old son w/ mild cerebral palsy, & as I don't work to care for him,I have no money to leave. I'm stuck.
WHEW. OK, I feel better now.
Just thought I'd give a little bit of personal experiance to this subject. I have no problem w/ what a couple does together,it's the deceit that screws things up. On the outside,I DO think it degrades humans, as ( I thought ) that the ability to control our sexual urges is one thing that humans have evolved beyond an animal level. Apparantly not ALL humans... and we all know what a loose attitude about sex leads to;rampant STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc.
Porn IS addicting, for sure. Just like any other addiction, you soon lose the thrill, & have to move on to more, & harder stuff. My husband just the other night told me ( he didn't think I heard him mutter under his breath ) that he prefers the porn because they "don't talk". It's a way to avoid all human emotion, & just consider your own physical needs.
When you can't trust the father of your children to go to the store & spend the few precious dollars you have left on your CHILDREN, instead of porn, there's just nothing left. I had such severe depression when I was pregnant w/ our last child due to this problem, I wonder if it contributed to his present medical problems. The guilt is eating me alive, & the feelings of helplessness & isolation are consuming me. I SO wish I knew a way to break the cycle & LEAVE, but I feel so crappy abut myself due to all of this I am scared to go it alone.
You find it absurd because you twisted it to suit yourself. Read it again if you really want to know, or don't if you want to stick to your story. I was admitted to every college I applied for back in the day. Financials were quite a different story.
No - college admissions do not demand girls to lie on their backs. Pure BS. And you call me twisted! Show me one college - any college- where all the girls (or even 5%) getting in are doing so because they lie on their backs.
IOP I'd like to add that when males have these immature attitudes towards women, it also sets an example to daughters & sons how to treat women and what a mature male acts like. The arrested development hurts not just the marriage, but the generation they're raising (children raising children). Complete emotional detachment is dehumanizing.
I would have to agree with you if the male is indeed affected negatively by porn but hopefully, most children aren't aware of the porn itself. However, the lack of time with the parent who constantly indulges causes emotional harm to the child due to neglect (of course, this applies to any activity that isolates a parent). That being said (don't kill me), I don't believe porn causes problems for all men and women.
Porn has been around for ever. To say it is the reason for failed marriges is absurd. Who hasn’t looked at another nude person, let them cast the first stone.
It's not that simple; it's not about just looking at a nude person. It's about other aspects...read the entire thread; read the post by KsStorm. In part of it she mentions exactly what I was trying to convey in my first post, and more. Porn may not destroy all marriages but it can and does destroy some.
No - college admissions do not demand girls to lie on their backs. Pure BS. And you call me twisted! Show me one college - any college- where all the girls (or even 5%) getting in are doing so because they lie on their backs.
You twisted the story in your head. Getting admitted to college is not the same thing as being able to PAY for college. Snap out of it! (unless you're really really wanting to defend leacherous men creating the demand, then of course, I understand quite well where you're coming from. )
I would have to agree with you if the male is indeed affected negatively by porn but hopefully, most children aren't aware of the porn itself. However, the lack of time with the parent who constantly indulges causes emotional harm to the child due to neglect (of course, this applies to any activity that isolates a parent). That being said (don't kill me), I don't believe porn causes problems for all men and women.
Ok I'll use this parallel as if it were alcohol. Some people can't handle it because they've got addictive personalities. Other people have little to no problem (or so it appears) indulging in porn casually when they choose. When our culture uses sex to sell a bottle of asprin, when that carrot and stick is used so frequently, it's the equivalent of putting alcohol in the entire food chain. Cocaine in soda pop. Children absolutely are aware of it when adult men and women treat each other differently.
Morally casual sex has been sold regularly in media and encourages everyone to look upon their counterpart gender as relieving themselves on the other. Adults living this out around children give them no healthy relationship model to follow (both genders equally). MTV is supposed to be for teen agers and what exactly are these young people learning if you care to spend a few hours watching with a critical eye. Video games like grand theft auto??? It's the job of the parents to mind the kids? What made these parents so sexually juvenille themselves???
I defy anyone to show me where in our collective media anything resembling normal healthy relationships are being portrayed. Might as well look for made in america labels in walmart. Where is love & respect in these story lines? No I'm not saying rah rah lets think brady bunch leave it to beaver disnified reality, I'm saying that in an over reach for 'sexual freedom' they created a whole other trap. Our version of civilization abuses motherhood to the point where it kills maternal instincts as the price of survival. Porn is rewarded regularly, motherhood is punished regularly.
You twisted the story in your head. Getting admitted to college is not the same thing as being able to PAY for college. Snap out of it! (unless you're really really wanting to defend leacherous men creating the demand, then of course, I understand quite well where you're coming from. )
Actually, I did respond on college costs in post 91. Recall you were claiming the only way to pay for them is for a woman to strip. Truth is the costs are high for either gender. Here is a repost of what I said in #91: "Costs of college are the same to men or women. If they have the grades, either can get scholarship or a loan. If there is a rich parent - the child gets money to study - regardless of if it is a boy or a girl . I do not see stripping as a requirement in any of these cases."
Here are your words from post 104: "Horny men decide who gets paid enough to cover tuition, and who will be beholden to 10yr burdens of student loans."
My question: what has horny men got to do with admission? Does a university brochure tell you they have horny men deciding which girl gets in?
You're deflecting with non arguments for 3(?) posts now. If you don't want to have a real discussion, why bother addressing me anymore? You'll have to read this entire thread over again to see where you mistook what I said. Repeating myself 5 ways to sunday won't make anyone who's unwilling to see or hear contrary to their bias overcome their voluntary handicap. Your approach disqualifies you from exploring the subject at hand.
You know little about me, what my observations have been, or my heightened awareness of media influence as a result of being a trained artist. There has always been a battle for the real estate of your mind going on, and some people are better equipped for dealing with this manipulation. Others are leaning on an expert (wolf in sheeps clothing).
Your own behavior in this post betrays your own character. People will see what they most want to believe, but your tactics speak loudest every single time.
Yet, you sound like you know me all too well? I know you all too well. You resemble other conspiracy theorists in their desire to hold "special knowledge," to "be somebody" to expose the truth to all us poor sheeple. You say you want to be free from some NWO-Banking Cartel or some other odd conspiracy-theory, yet want to impose restrictions on the rest of society because "your ways are best." It's fairly easy to make money off of folks like yourself, just as easy as making money off of teeny boppers.
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There has always been a battle for the real estate of your mind going on
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my heightened awareness of media influence as a result of being a trained artist
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and some people are better equipped for dealing with this manipulation
Those three quotations sum it up perfectly. You have the answers, you're all knowing, and you need to tell us sheeple how to live, even though those evil [insert group here] have been doing it for years (according to you). It's just that your way is the right way.
It's not magic. Of course advertizers are trying to get your money through sex, drugs, psychology, and bandwagon. Anyone who has at least an IQ of 100, though, can see through it. Anyone who's half-way studied a literature class can see symbolism being use to poke their subconscience. It's not rocket science.
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