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Yes those right wing shills at NASA are manipulating data. This response is exhibit A proving my post above.
You've proved nothing, other than relying on "outliers" to buttress your nonsense.
Let me prove something to you:
A) You will almost NEVER find a 100% majority opinion on ANY subject. Even the Holocaust has plenty of deniers.
B) There are various "motives" for people, one of them being money, one of them wishing to find the pinnacle of their succession in a completely opposite camp than accepted wisdom, scientific analysis and research has placed the majority opinion
C) Global warming deniers know little about global warming, in fact, by relying on scientific propaganda/politics, they are actually the least informed of anyone studying the issues, because not only are they misinformed, they conform to an opinion that is opposite the VAST majority of SCIENTISTS actually studying the issue.
You don't really think the media will tell you such things, do you?
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How do people in this day and age deny that billions of tons of formerly sequestered fossil fuels spewed into the atmosphere cannot have a warming effect on earth, when science have proven, conclusively, that they do?
See, that's just the problem, they haven't. They have a "theory", supported by suspect data as well as data that is conveniently left out - there is no "conclusive" about it, especially when other relevant, credentialed, world-renowned scientists disagree with their findings (which are based on 40 year , defective modeling).
One other thing you're probably unaware of - science is never based on consensus, which is what the GW-fanatics like to claim as true.
See, that's just the problem, they haven't. They have a "theory", supported by suspect data as well as data that is conveniently left out - there is no "conclusive" about it, especially when other relevant, credentialed, world-renowned scientists disagree with their findings (which are based on 40 year , defective modeling).
One other thing you're probably unaware of - science is never based on consensus, which is what the GW-fanatics like to claim as true.
Science is often based on consensus, when climate models are forecast. That is the heart of global warming/manmade climate change, what will it do to the earth?
Well, with rising tides, melting sea ice, and the positive feedback loop it entails, no one knows for sure. But the changes will mean Two Things for sure:
1) The disappearance of ecosystems and entire species of animals, from the microscopic level to something, potentially, as large as a polar bear.
2) There will be climate change refugees, forced to abandon their homelands as a result of drought, rising tides, or various other reasons related to climate change.
This is already underway. It will only continue to get worse. If you blame it on the earth itself and absolve man, you are in denial. We are to blame. Mankind is responsible, and pollution continues to get worse.
And please remember, the U.S. is still the largest polluter on earth. We need leadership, not denial. Denial is what Bush/Cheney gave us. They ALTERED offical reports to conform to their denial
Science is often based on consensus, when climate models are forecast. That is the heart of global warming/manmade climate change, what will it do to the earth?
For 30 years, everything the fanatics have predicted has not come to pass. Science is definitely NOT based on consensus and if you were knowledgeable in any way, you would know that.
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And please remember, the U.S. is still the largest polluter on earth.
Another factually incorrect statement by you. China is the world's biggest polluter - and guess what? They will not be adhering to any form of "climate change" mandates.
For 30 years, everything the fanatics have predicted has not come to pass. Science is definitely NOT based on consensus and if you were knowledgeable in any way, you would know that.
Wrong. Forecast models of what the continued and rising manmade pollutants will do to this earth is the heart of what the study of climate change revolves around. These scientists are not trifling with climate change deniers, they have work to do. The issue of whether man is contributing to climate change or not is only an argument amongst the lunatic fringe. Real science is searching for solutions, trying to mitigate its effects on the ecosystems of the world, and not arguing over who is to blame, as this has already been researched thoroughly. Much of science is trying to predict the future of climate change, the same one that is at odds with your beliefs that man is not contributing to a warming planet.
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Another factually incorrect statement by you. China is the world's biggest polluter - and guess what? They will not be adhering to any form of "climate change" mandates.
Wrong again. And it doesnt matter if they "adhere" to "climate change mandates" in regards to my statement. They are the worlds second largest polluter.
Science is often based on consensus, when climate models are forecast. That is the heart of global warming/manmade climate change, what will it do to the earth?
Well, with rising tides, melting sea ice, and the positive feedback loop it entails, no one knows for sure. But the changes will mean Two Things for sure:
1) The disappearance of ecosystems and entire species of animals, from the microscopic level to something, potentially, as large as a polar bear.
2) There will be climate change refugees, forced to abandon their homelands as a result of drought, rising tides, or various other reasons related to climate chang.
This is already underway. It will only continue to get worse. If you blame it on the earth itself and absolve man, you are in denial. We are to blame. Mankind is responsible, and pollution continues to get worse.
And please remember, the U.S. is still the largest polluter on earth. We need leadership, not denial. Denial is what Bush/Cheney gave us. They ALTERED offical reports to conform to their denial
Flat earth theory had a consesus. I don't understand your anger. All anyone is saying is open your mind and consider the possibility you are wrong. No one is asking you to abandon your belief but your mind is so closed you can't even allow inquiry without being threatened. Sad.
Sorry, but you are behind the times. China has surpassed the US.
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The issue of whether man is contributing to climate change or not is only an argument amongst the lunatic fringe.
Again, you are incorrect. Just feast your eyes on some of the names, credentials and relevance of those who dispute MM-GW.
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Much of science is trying to predict the future of climate change
Yes, with faulty models 20-40 years out. They can't even predict climate correctly for one year and they want to convince people they can accurately predict 40 years out.
So much of what they have predicted in the past has not come to fruition.
I just have one question; Why is Mars experiencing a "global warming"?
Sorry, but you are behind the times. China has surpassed the US.
Again, you are incorrect. Just feast your eyes on some of the names, credentials and relevance of those who dispute MM-GW.
Yes, with faulty models 20-40 years out. They can't even predict climate correctly for one year and they want to convince people they can accurately predict 40 years out.
So much of what they have predicted in the past has not come to fruition.
I just have one question; Why is Mars experiencing a "global warming"?
These people are so invested in thier belief system (religion) that even one precept of their enshrined dogma is challenged they become unhinged. It is pointless trying to reason with zealots.
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