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Old 04-11-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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Why do you idiot liberals associate the south with Republicans? Republicans are clearly strongest in the Great Plains states and Mountain states. Oklahoma gave McCain his biggest return. Wyoming gave the largest return in the Mountain states, previously Utah was historically the most Republican state in America. The southern states don't even come close to producing these high numbers.
when people say the party of the south it actually means something.not just voter turnouts
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I figured a better example of brainwashing would be a huge number of people prior to Nov 4th all agreeing huge deficit sending is bad and then a vast majority of those same people suddenly down with the deficit spending.
As opposed to all those Republican voters who re-elected Bush and their free-spending GOP senators/congressmen in 2004 (even though they had taken a surplus and changed it to deficit)?



Look, the fact is - deficits are a bad thing, but there are times when circumstances dictate that it happens. It happened with Lincoln during the Civil War, with Roosevelt in the Great Depression and WWII (where we could not have prevailed without it), and it's happening again during this greatest economic crisis in nearly a century.

That's just the way it is.
I don't like it, but sometimes you just have to do it.
It's really not all that complicated.


Ken
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It seems every day another outlandish statement by a Republican comes out & the nation, once again, cringes in embarrassment. There doesn't seem to be any intelligence among Republicans & many have left the party during the Bush presidency. The party of the South is what the GOP has become & unfortunately even the larger cities [Houston\ Dallas\ Atlanta, etc] now vote Democratic.

Is the Republican party at risk of being a total joke? Will it survive in the next decade? Duh! I don't know!
At risk? No, they are a total joke. The VA builds new veteran's cemetaries because we have hundreds of thousands of new vets who are all legally entitled burial (even 100 years from now if they want it) at public expense and they want there to be enough room for them but the wingnuts claim they're building concentration camps. Nutjobs like Michelle Bachman claim anyone who disagrees with her extremist views is anti-American, a communist, and probably a traitor. While partisan hacks ignore facts and go on witch hunts attacking other people while paradoxically claiming they are the victims.

No, they aren't endanger of becoming a complete joke. They ARE a complete joke. They have no solutions, they have no answers, they're just obstructionists trying to drag America down, and who are angry at the democratic process because the people have rejected their lunacy.

Edit: Oh, and let's not forget that they think Americorp, a group primarily dedicated to increasing literacy in America and doing public works, is secretly a brown shirt army to kill all the Republicans. These people are certifiably insane and should be institutionalized.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I appreciate your feedback & of-course everyone agrees with you But the point of this thread is to comment on some really funny if not scary statements coming out of the GOP. Backus\ Bachmann\ the Republican senator who said corporate CEO's should be killed, etc.

Also the face of the Republican Party is essentially elderly Southern white men with a Bible in one hand & the American flag in the other. Utah & some other Mountain States [Idaho] & Midwest [Kansas\ Nebraska] also fit the profile. But the large cities across the nation are Blue [even in the South] & unless the GOP wants to keep that rural image it will continue to lose numbers. It's amazing how quickly the Northeast\ Great Lakes states are devoid of Republicans. Same thing on the West Coast.

I'd be embarrassed to admit I voted for Bush twice & support a party more interested in proving that the world is only 5000 yrs old than "real" issues. I'm sorry but the GOP is a laugh like never before. This is much worse than when Nixon resigned or even when Hoover was president. As the saying goes: "it is was it is" & for Republicans it is DUH!
I think you are being disingenuous, if you really agreed with TP you would also acknowledge the silly things Democrats say i.e., Joe Biden, Barack Obama. Maxine Waters, John Murtha et al. However you come across as partisan when you cannot acknowledge the blunders from both sides.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:12 PM
 
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As opposed to all those Republican voters who re-elected Bush and their free-spending GOP senators/congressmen in 2004 (even though they had taken a surplus and changed it to deficit)?



Look, the fact is - deficits are a bad thing, but there are times when circumstances dictate that it happens. It happened with Lincoln during the Civil War, with Roosevelt in the Great Depression and WWII (where we could not have prevailed without it), and it's happening again during this greatest economic crisis in nearly a century.

That's just the way it is.
I don't like it, but sometimes you just have to do it.
It's really not all that complicated.


Ken
Deficit spending is never necessary if you manage surpluses and government spending properly. However, our politicians must have never taken accounting or finance classes, as they cannot even pronounce the word "budget" without straining.

And you said it really isn't that complicated, but it is. Firstly, it isn't proven that massive spending can pull us out of a recession/depression. Secondly, in order for spending to have the desired effect, it should ideally be sustainable projects with long-term horizons. People such as myself don't necessarily trust the government with long term projects (google the "Big Dig"). Keynesians still do not have a majority.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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At risk? No, they are a total joke. The VA builds new veteran's cemetaries because we have hundreds of thousands of new vets who are all legally entitled burial (even 100 years from now if they want it) at public expense
Oerdin at great personal risk to myself, without coersion, against the wishes of my parents, against the grain of culture, under threats beside me in the ranks, sacraficing my own personal rights in the protection of others, I diligently served my country with honors for not much more than minimum wages. You will begrudge me a grave to make your point?
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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The trouble with repugs is that there are too many brain washed nazis like Rush Limpballs.
Spoken like a true brain-washed libbie. Hey, you need to lay off the Daily Kos my dear.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I figured a better example of brainwashing would be a huge number of people prior to Nov 4th all agreeing huge deficit sending is bad and then a vast majority of those same people suddenly down with the deficit spending. People have the free will to listen to whatever they want and far more suddenly found a new salvation in deficit spending than any did "suddenly" listening to Rush. You might remember what NAZI stands for also, National Socialist German Workers’ Party. It would be easier for you to project another platform...
EXACTLY! Of course the hypocrisy is totally lost of them.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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The Virginia Republican Party has formed a circular firing squad and is engaged in civil war. The social conservatives are in a fight with the moderate republicans. It's a great spectator sport.
Is it now? Is it also time to make popped corn when a man is terrorizing his own family on their front lawn in your neighborhood? I'm not impressed with your character anymore than I'm impressed by these other individuals.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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As opposed to all those Republican voters who re-elected Bush and their free-spending GOP senators/congressmen in 2004 (even though they had taken a surplus and changed it to deficit)?



Look, the fact is - deficits are a bad thing, but there are times when circumstances dictate that it happens. It happened with Lincoln during the Civil War, with Roosevelt in the Great Depression and WWII (where we could not have prevailed without it), and it's happening again during this greatest economic crisis in nearly a century.

That's just the way it is.
I don't like it, but sometimes you just have to do it.
It's really not all that complicated.


Ken
The deficit spending under Bush was no different and was done for the same reasons, stimulus. But because you didn't agree with it, it was wrong no matter what size. But you agree with Obama's spending so no matter what size, it's okay. Justify it however you want, that's your prerogative.
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