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Old 04-14-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Were the pirated ships within territorial waters of Somalia?
Not the pirated ships, but the illegal fishing trawlers and toxic waste dumpers were. I had not an ounce of sympathy for the pirates previously, but I admit that I am more sympathetic now, Perhaps we can guard their fishing rights and help them right their fishing industry. Perhaps those shipping companies at risk will contribute to helping the Somalis develop legitimate industries. I think they would stop the illegal activity at that point.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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no more than tourists that litter and are gang raped and robbed in new orleans.
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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no more than tourists that litter and are gang raped and robbed in new orleans.
Perhaps we could hire the dolphins...

Thousands of dolphins block Somali pirates_English_Xinhua
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Old 04-14-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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Do I hear the sound of bleeding hearts crying for the oppressed pirates?

It is a criminal enterprise. Nothing more, nothing less!
You can't clamor for the law to end one criminal enterprise while turning a blind eye to another. That's all it is.
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: OB
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Were the pirated ships within territorial waters of Somalia?
No, territorial waters extend only 12miles from coast. Shipping lanes are at least 50 miles and usually around 150 miles from coast to avoid local fisherman. The pirated ship was further out than 12miles and was in the shipping lanes.

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You can't clamor for the law to end one criminal enterprise while turning a blind eye to another. That's all it is.
That's all there is. So the answer is to kidnap innocent merchant shippers?
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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No, territorial waters extend only 12miles from coast. Shipping lanes are at least 50 miles and usually around 150 miles from coast to avoid local fisherman. The pirated ship was further out than 12miles and was in the shipping lanes.



That's all there is. So the answer is to kidnap innocent merchant shippers?
Don't be obtuse. Have I not just said that you can't enforce the law on one group of law breakers and not the others? So doesn't that mean that I think you should enforce the law on pirates as well?
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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it's true these rich countries are raping the seas around these poor countries. i watched some documentaries on that subject.. the somalies don't have enough money to enforce there coastal waters it's all about greed take there fish and don't expect retaliation... give me a break
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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The Piracy situation in Somalia is just another legacy of that train wreck known as the Bush Administration:

"Starting in 2006 pirate activity off the coast of Somalia escalated dramatically. Hundreds of ships have been taken and tens of millions of dollars in ransom paid. And what did the Bush Administration do? Not a goddamn thing. The piracy was allowed to go on virtually unchecked. The United States chose to ignore it because it was not “terrorism.”

"Bush and Cheney ignored the piracy and, surprise of surprises, a gang of impoverished thugs discovered they could make millions of dollars for simply capturing a ship and demanding a ransom."
Blame Bush and Cheney for the Somalia Piracy : NO QUARTER

"The further rise of piracy off the Horn of Africa could have been avoided. In the cauldron of Somali instability, an Islamic Judicial Council was emerging that was particularly hard on pirates during the early to mid part of this decade. The Islamic Judicial Council was clamping down on pirates effectively as it had declared piracy un-Islamic. But because they looked too similar to the Taliban, the Bush administration encouraged Ethiopia to invade Somalia and take out the Council."
The Bush Administration's Gift to Piracy - Open Salon
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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YouTube - Somali Pirates See Themselves As Unofficial Coast Guard
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:29 PM
 
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So how doeshijacking ships and taking the ships' crews hostage solve this environmental problem...?
How does kidnapping people from Afghanistan and throwing them in a jail in a place without laws make the World safer and spread freedom?
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