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Old 05-23-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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A Virginia doctor who secretly gave his girlfriend a spiked drink meant to induce an abortion has been sentenced to three years in prison.

Last year, Sikander Imran was arrested and pleaded guilty to fetal homicide in Arlington County, Virginia.


According to WJLA-TV, Friday, Imran received a 20-year sentence. He has also with all been stripped of his medical license and faces deportation back to his native Pakistan after he completes his sentence.

The Washington, DC news station reports that the victim, Brooke Fiske, had been dating Imran and was already 17 weeks pregnant when she went to visit him to discuss coparenting options.






So, just wondering..... According to "liberal" logic.... since liberals do not consider fetus's "alive" or "human" and they do Abortions in virginia past 27 weeks...

How is this guy being charged with fetal homicide? Why is it not fetal homicide when women do it?





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Old 05-23-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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A Virginia doctor who secretly gave his girlfriend a spiked drink meant to induce an abortion has been sentenced to three years in prison.

Last year, Sikander Imran was arrested and pleaded guilty to fetal homicide in Arlington County, Virginia.


According to WJLA-TV, Friday, Imran received a 20-year sentence. He has also with all been stripped of his medical license and faces deportation back to his native Pakistan after he completes his sentence.

The Washington, DC news station reports that the victim, Brooke Fiske, had been dating Imran and was already 17 weeks pregnant when she went to visit him to discuss coparenting options.






So, just wondering..... According to "liberal" logic.... since liberals do not consider fetus's "alive" or "human" and they do Abortions in virginia past 27 weeks...

How is this guy being charged with fetal homicide? Why is it not fetal homicide when women do it?





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Homicide: the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another

A woman choosing to have an abortion has done nothing unlawful and has not killed a person. Doesn't make it lawful for someone else to choose to terminate a woman's pregnancy.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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Homicide: the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another

A woman choosing to have an abortion has done nothing unlawful and has not killed a person. Doesn't make it lawful for someone else to choose to terminate a woman's pregnancy.
So you are saying that the women taking the abortion pill willingly is not considered "fetal homicide", but if the man chooses to give the abortion pill , then its fetal homicide......sure thing....... got it

A woman choosing or having an abortion is deliberately killing the fetus ....... its the SAME THING

In each scenario, a parent gives the abortion pill .. When the man gives it, its murder, when the women gives it...its a "lawful chosen abortion"
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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A Virginia doctor who secretly gave his girlfriend a spiked drink meant to induce an abortion has been sentenced to three years in prison.

Last year, Sikander Imran was arrested and pleaded guilty to fetal homicide in Arlington County, Virginia.


According to WJLA-TV, Friday, Imran received a 20-year sentence. He has also with all been stripped of his medical license and faces deportation back to his native Pakistan after he completes his sentence.

The Washington, DC news station reports that the victim, Brooke Fiske, had been dating Imran and was already 17 weeks pregnant when she went to visit him to discuss coparenting options.






So, just wondering..... According to "liberal" logic.... since liberals do not consider fetus's "alive" or "human" and they do Abortions in virginia past 27 weeks...

How is this guy being charged with fetal homicide? Why is it not fetal homicide when women do it?





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Consent.
Abortions are legal when preformed by a licensed medical person in a licensed facility with the consent of the host.


Terminating a pregnancy by trickery or force without the consent of the host is not.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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It was also the poisoning of the woman and trauma and loss to her as well. He should have gotten thirty years in prison then deported.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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Consent.
Abortions are legal when preformed by a licensed medical person in a licensed facility with the consent of the host.


Terminating a pregnancy by trickery or force without the consent of the host is not.

Is the baby not equally the man's as well as the woman's? Do you know how many woman have abortions without the "man's" consent.........
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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So you are saying that the women taking the abortion pill willingly is not considered "fetal homicide", but if the man chooses to give the abortion pill , then its fetal homicide......sure thing....... got it

A woman choosing or having an abortion is deliberately killing the fetus ....... its the SAME THING

In each scenario, a parent gives the abortion pill .. When the man gives it, its murder, when the women gives it...its a "lawful chosen abortion"

By your illogic a tattooist sedating someone and giving them a tattoo they never requested would be no different than that person choosing to get a tattoo and walking in voluntarily.

Doesn't work like that.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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So you are saying that the women taking the abortion pill willingly is not considered "fetal homicide", but if the man chooses to give the abortion pill , then its fetal homicide......sure thing....... got it

A woman choosing or having an abortion is deliberately killing the fetus ....... its the SAME THING

In each scenario, a parent gives the abortion pill .. When the man gives it, its murder, when the women gives it...its a "lawful chosen abortion"
But the fetus is residing in her body, is dependent on her body, and directly affects only her body.
Like sex, legal if there is consent, illegal if no consent is given.
Someone else does not have the legal right to violate, mutilate or otherwise alter your body without your consent.
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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But the fetus is residing in her body, is dependent on her body, and directly affects only her body.
Like sex, legal if there is consent, illegal if no consent is given.
Someone else does not have the legal right to violate, mutilate or otherwise alter your body without your consent.
Im just saying. They should rename abortion to fetal homicide... So when a woman wants to have her "abortion" which I support under certain circumstances. Then they should call it "assisted fetal homicide". Or they should have charged this guy with un-lawful forced abortion ....... pick one or the other

Thats all...
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Is the baby not equally the man's as well as the woman's? Do you know how many woman have abortions without the "man's" consent.........
No, not while it is in her body. When it is born, yes.
How many? How many women have babies without the mans consent?
Do you believe it should be up to the person who released sperm to decided if a woman should abort or carry to term, because......?
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