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Old 05-28-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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The expectation of an economic recovery is unlikely. There will be no sudden increase in the number of high paying private sector jobs, nor boom in American factories.

If you want to promote "Hire American / Buy American", you need to first "Fire Congress / End national socialism".

The bureaucratic paperwork, taxation and regulatory overhead is the major factor that makes American labor and production expensive.

Remember, the last customer in line always pays the tax bill - because all taxes on business and labor get shifted to the last retail transaction. Where else do companies get the money to pay their taxes if not from their customers? Ditto for labor.

The only meaningful way to reverse the situation, is to eliminate the Socialist InSecurity system, and the hordes of parasites that feed upon the American worker.

Why else do companies hire undocumented / illegal aliens for "cash"? It's not always cheaper wages. American companies that hire illegals are "voting" against the socialist burdens that prevent them from making a profit hiring American labor.

If you want to repatriate industries and jobs to America, you have to stop penalizing productive activity and rewarding parasites.

Of course, such a common sense solution is political suicide for any politician to espouse.

Sigh.

We be doomed.
We are not doomed.

We only need 5 or 6 more states to declare their sovereignty, and together then, they can vote to disolve our current system of government and rewrite our constitution.

We can send the Obamabots home with a resounding "thanks, but no thanks". Rewrite our constitution, elect a new Congress and President and finally get back to having a government for the people ... by the people.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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We are not doomed.

We only need 5 or 6 more states to declare their sovereignty, and together then, they can vote to disolve our current system of government and rewrite our constitution.

We can send the Obamabots home with a resounding "thanks, but no thanks". Rewrite our constitution, elect a new Congress and President and finally get back to having a government for the people ... by the people.
Don't stay up waiting.........................
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Don't stay up waiting.........................

LOL

Yeah, really.

Ken
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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The only meaningful way to reverse the situation, is to eliminate the Socialist InSecurity system, and the hordes of parasites that feed upon the American worker.

Why else do companies hire undocumented / illegal aliens for "cash"? It's not always cheaper wages. American companies that hire illegals are "voting" against the socialist burdens that prevent them from making a profit hiring American labor.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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We are not doomed.

We only need 5 or 6 more states to declare their sovereignty, and together then, they can vote to disolve our current system of government and rewrite our constitution.

We can send the Obamabots home with a resounding "thanks, but no thanks". Rewrite our constitution, elect a new Congress and President and finally get back to having a government for the people ... by the people.
or we could actually follow the Constitution and stop re-electing the Congressmen who don't represent us.
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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We are not doomed.

We only need 5 or 6 more states to declare their sovereignty, and together then, they can vote to disolve our current system of government and rewrite our constitution.

We can send the Obamabots home with a resounding "thanks, but no thanks". Rewrite our constitution, elect a new Congress and President and finally get back to having a government for the people ... by the people.
Does that come with an easy button?
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Government is the will of the people in a democracy/republic.
I strongly suspect you haven't had the benefit of a nasty brush with "democratic socialist" government. It will alter your opinion forever.

BTW - the "republican form" and the "democratic form" are mutually exclusive. A "republic" is not synonymous with the "republican form".

It's a common mistake, mixing 'republic' and a 'republican form'.
REPUBLIC - A commonwealth; That form of government in which the administration of affairs is open to all the citizens. In another sense, it signifies the state, independent of its form of government.
Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 1302
A republic is not synonymous with a republican form of government. The People's Republic of China is a republic but not a republican form.
"GOVERNMENT (Republican Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695
In contrast:
"DEMOCRACY - That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 432
(I will omit a treatise on the myriad uses of "or" in legal jargon, to lessen confusion.)

Restating
Democratic Form: Whole Body of Citizens indirectly exercise sovereignty (absolute power) through their representative legislators, who in turn, delegate authority to the executive branch to execute the laws.

Republican Form: Individual people directly exercise sovereignty. They may delegate certain powers - via petition - to the servant government. Example - when making a criminal complaint, the sheriff becomes their representative. Or in a foreign country, petitioning the ambassador for assistance.

To rebut any presumption that "citizens" are "collectively sovereign" let us remember the following facts:
1. Citizens are obligated to perform civic duties (militia, jury duty, paying taxes, etc)
2. Sovereigns are not obligated to perform civic duties.

(No sovereign is a citizen. The Queen of England is not an English citizen.)
"People are supreme, not the state."
Waring v. the Mayor of Savannah, 60 GA at 93.

"The people of the state, as the successors of its former sovereign, are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his own prerogative."
Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY)

"At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and they are truly the sovereigns of the country."
Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, 463
"...In America, however, the case is widely different. Our government is founded upon compact. Sovereignty was, and is, in the people."
Glass vs The Sloop Betsey, 3 Dall 6 (1794)
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:55 AM
 
Location: USA
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How will we recover when unemployment is going to go to 80+% and oil will go to $1,000 a barrel?
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:36 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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How will we recover when unemployment is going to go to 80+% and oil will go to $1,000 a barrel?

Easily the silliest post I've seen in a longgggggg time.


Ken
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:51 AM
 
Location: USA
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Easily the silliest post I've seen in a longgggggg time.


Ken
I wouldn't say so.

Zimbabwe has that high of an unemployment rate, and it would be interesting to find out how many billions of dollars a gallon of gas costs there.
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