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Obama is using the crisis as an excuse to pursue his policies.
If the economy was doing well, he would say we are so prosperous & wealthy and that is why we need better infrastrutre & healthcare (more gov spending on top of more gov spending) he's a snake salesman.
(Whatever the current situation is) is why we need more gov spending and higher taxes
God forbid we should improve the infrastructure and healthcare situation.....
Main Entry:so·cial·ism Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\ Function:noun Date:1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Can anyone thoughtfully dispute that we are experiencing the first definition? Also, please remember, goods don't only have to be tangible.
God forbid we should improve the infrastructure and healthcare situation.....
But the current healthcare system makes us a nation of slaves and that's cool. Want to quit your job? Joke is on you. We don't quit jobs here in America - and if you do we'll punish you. We'll take away yer' health care. If you feel like manning up, be our guest. We'll make you pay out the butt for Cobra, buy a doo-doo personal health care package with high premiums, not have insurance, or find another job immediately. Screw taking the time to do what you like while knowing you won't go bankrupt.
Obama is using the crisis as an excuse to pursue his policies.
If the economy was doing well, he would say we are so prosperous & wealthy and that is why we need better infrastrutre & healthcare (more gov spending on top of more gov spending) he's a snake salesman.
(Whatever the current situation is) is why we need more gov spending and higher taxes
How do you come to this conclusion?
In case you didn't notice the tax cuts initiated by Reagan led to huge defecits.
Clinton managed to be fiscally responsible...the republicans try to take credit for it but they obviously have no clue how to balance the federal budget.
Bush came into office with a surplus and left us bankrupt.
So what credibility does the right have when speaking of fiscal responsibility?
What credibility do you have calling him a socialist when you didn't even know what socialism is?
You called for the dummies to wake up, so wake us up. Explain to us how he is or would do what you claim?
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
this sounds a bit like a gender gap. power of elite and their labor which make their goods and make way less than they
Main Entry:so·cial·ism Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\ Function:noun Date:1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Can anyone thoughtfully dispute that we are experiencing the first definition? Also, please remember, goods don't only have to be tangible.
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In general, liberals favor constitutional government, representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals at various times have embraced both constitutional monarchy and republican government. They are generally opposed to any but the milder forms of nationalism, and usually stand in contrast to conservatives by their broader tolerance and in more readily embracing multiculturalism. Furthermore, they generally favor human rights and civil liberties, especially freedom of speech and freedom of the press (while holding various positions on whether people have an inherent right to the means of economic subsistence). However, the liberal commitment to unrestricted individual liberty is not necessarily absolute: as Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. said, "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre...," and liberal parties support restrictions on incitement to violence.
Liberals also typically believe in a free market and free trade, but they differ in the degree of limited government intervention in the economy which they advocate. In general, government responsibility for health, education and alleviating poverty fits into the policies of most liberal parties. But all of them, even American liberals, tend to believe in a far smaller role for the state than would be supported by most social democrats, let alone socialists or communists.
Main Entry:so·cial·ism Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\ Function:noun Date:1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Can anyone thoughtfully dispute that we are experiencing the first definition? Also, please remember, goods don't only have to be tangible.
Keep thinking that's what liberalism stands for. That's classic liberalism. Liberalism today if not socialism is communist but they would refuse to just come out and say it because of the stigmata. It's plain as day by many posting here.
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. Want to quit your job? Joke is on you. We don't quit jobs here in America - and if you do we'll punish you. We'll take away yer' health care. If you feel like manning up, be our guest. We'll make you pay out the butt for Cobra, buy a doo-doo personal health care package with high premiums, not have insurance, or find another job immediately. Screw taking the time to do what you like while knowing you won't go bankrupt. 
