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Old 04-15-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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To those proud supporters of the GOP...the idea of Obama's plan to grant amnesty to illegals INCENSES me. It is something I simply cannot accept - I find it enfuriating and it goes against every single thing I believe in.

How can we convince our Democrat Congress to see it our way? Is there any hope? I want to actually do something to stop it.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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To those proud supporters of the GOP...the idea of Obama's plan to grant amnesty to illegals INCENSES me. It is something I simply cannot accept - I find it enfuriating and it goes against every single thing I believe in.

How can we convince our Democrat Congress to see it our way? Is there any hope? I want to actually do something to stop it.
I think you should write to your local representatives and explain your alternative... what is your alternative, by the way?
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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You could always point out how well amnesty worked last time it was tried (under Regan around 1986?). Since the problem is bigger than ever you can see that it turned out swimmingly well...
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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You could always point out how well amnesty worked last time it was tried (under Regan around 1986?). Since the problem is bigger than ever you can see that it turned out swimmingly well...

There was a report out this morning concerning the number of children born to illegals since the 90's. The problem is actually bigger than they thought. This is a HUGE issue. The problem basically is, how do they handle the problem without departing American Born citizens.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think you should write to your local representatives and explain your alternative... what is your alternative, by the way?
Start imposing huge fines on anyone who is hiring them. Deputize all police to work in immigration enforcement....many local police departments, sheriff's offices, etc. are already deputizing some officers. Anyone who is arrested for any crime, even a very minor one, gets deported if they are not legally present in the country. I'd also suggest banning their children from our public schools as long as the kids are illegals themselves....find a way to do it constitutionally. I really don't know what we should do about the kids who are citizens themselves.

They are currently taking up 7 million American jobs. The problem will only get worse if/when they are granted amnesty. They'll start bringing their families here and affirmative action will result in them having a much easier time getting jobs than everyone else. At a time when so many citizens are out of work, how could anyone even begin to consider destroying our own even more?
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.

People who enter the country illegally.

Got it?
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.
As normal, typical liberal rationale from an overly simple mind. You're starting to make me think you were one of the interviewees on the "How Obama Got Elected" video.

You may marvel in such triviality, but illegal immigration is in no way, shape, or form equivalent to the idiocracy you propose.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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To those proud supporters of the GOP...the idea of Obama's plan to grant amnesty to illegals INCENSES me. It is something I simply cannot accept - I find it enfuriating and it goes against every single thing I believe in.
How do you propose that the US round up and deport 12 million people? And please be specific regarding costs in terms of manpower and transportation costs.

What do you propose to do about the rights of native born citizens and have every right to remain in the U.S. but whose parents are illegal residents?
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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As normal, typical liberal rationale from an overly simple mind. You're starting to make me think you were one of the interviewees on the "How Obama Got Elected" video.

You may marvel in such triviality, but illegal immigration is in no way, shape, or form equivalent to the idiocracy you propose.
Typical modern conservative, all bark, no solution.
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