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OTOH, more than that nationwide believe in the "right" to secede.
the right to.. and proposing to do so.. are two different things....
ask how many people believe in having the right to push their car off a cliff.. and then ask how many are wanting to do exactly that... You'll get very different numbers...
18 percent is a lot of people if you ask me... Only a state like texas would have 18 percent wanting to seceed....I would say the same thing about california... this notion that you're so big and influential enough to actually be discussing it...
Idaho is probably one of the most libertarian states in the union, It's redness on a map has little to do with why southern states are red... It's more about fiscally, and socially, smaller government, live and let live... SO.. after illustrating the independent nature of most idahoans, I would challenge you to find a poll where 18 percent of the people here would favor seperating from the union... That is what I'm trying to point out.. It's not about ideology.. it's about power....get off your soap box..
I could really care less if Idaho goes blue, red, or paisley. The point I'm trying to get across is that you just seem to want to bash Texas in general, rather than discuss anything relevant to the issue of this thread. Making statements like "Only a state like texas would have 18 percent wanting to seceed" has no relevance at all since that is hardly a majority. That's just facts, guy. Let's see all the rest of the states polled and how their numbers compare. Even then, so what?
Governor Says Texans May Want to Secede From Union
Good! let 'em.
They can acquire funds from state taxpayers to fix roads and bridges and infrastructure, keep paying unemployment benefits, run social programs, entitlement programs, why hell, they can even tax the crap out of their citizens to cover medicare costs and also fund their own social security recipients!
I heard taxes were already high in texas, if they want to separate from the union, their taxpayers will be footing the bill, and they will not receive ANY federal funds.
Governor Says Texans May Want to Secede From Union
Good! let 'em.
They can acquire funds from state taxpayers to fix roads and bridges and infrastructure, keep paying unemployment benefits, run social programs, entitlement programs, why hell, they can even tax the crap out of their citizens to cover medicare costs and also fund their own social security recipients!
I heard taxes were already high in texas, if they want to separate from the union, their taxpayers will be footing the bill, and they will not receive ANY federal funds.
I could really care less if Idaho goes blue, red, or paisley. The point I'm trying to get across is that you just seem to want to bash Texas in general, rather than discuss anything relevant to the issue of this thread. Making statements like "Only a state like texas would have 18 percent wanting to seceed" has no relevance at all since that is hardly a majority. That's just facts, guy. Let's see all the rest of the states polled and how their numbers compare. Even then, so what?
So of all the things I would choose to just specifically bash would be a state in the United states.. and that state being texas just because that's what I want to do??? I don't know what you're smoking... but people are not "bashing" texas.. they're stating their disgusted opinion of it's govenor going around the state talking about separation from the union.. and the fact that it is not being curbed.. THAT"S IT... other than that.. texas doesn't really play any role in my mind otherwise...
But i do know from personal experience the attitudes of people in texas which is very proud and at times arrogant.. which in most cases an endearing quality or aspect.. but in cases like this (if it indeed is rooted in this) it is disgusting....hence.. my comments "ONLY a place like texas"
Surely you can catch my drift?
now, quit whining
lol nice try, I played college hockey in Maine, and I've traveled to many different countries. Going to Greece and Turkey for my honeymoon in July So don't even go there.
And here's yet another stalker I have...
When you stop making uninformed claims then all of us will stop calling you out on it
So, are those challenging Perry's comment about secession just bored or has he really hit a sore place. Some reactions here push hilarity to its limits. It's like...
! ! ! ! IT"S MY CANDY AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME ! ! ! !
You're overlooking the most hilarious aspect of Perry's bufoonery.
There he was at a rally of idiots who've just gotten tax cuts, but who were griping about taxes. While waving the American flag and patting each other on the back for being great Americans, they begin chanting, "secede!"
OTOH, more than that nationwide believe in the "right" to secede.
This isn't a popularity contest. This is the Supreme Court's interpretation of the Constitution. You can't secede. End of story. The only viable approach is to change the constitution and frankly your side doesn't come close to having the votes.
This isn't a popularity contest. This is the Supreme Court's interpretation of the Constitution. You can't secede. End of story. The only viable approach is to change the constitution and frankly your side doesn't come close to having the votes.
No...get the SC to interpret it differently. I read the 10th Amendment very different from the way you do.
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This is just sour grapes from a loser party.
We're not losers here in TX...we're still a solid majority.
No...get the SC to interpret it differently. I read the 10th Amendment very different from the way you do.
What you fail to understand is that neither of our interpretations of the amendment means a damn. The Courts are the sole interpreter of the Constitution
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We're not losers here in TX...we're still a solid majority.
Until the Hispanic vote catches up, but you're losers on the national stage and likely to remain a inconsequential force at the national level for quite a few years. Hence the loser moniker for the Republican Party. Incompetent, out of touch, and wrong headed.
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So don't even go there.
