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Old 04-18-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Of course it is.. I'm actually supporting a tax..
Actually, I was thinking more of honesty.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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But, but there will be NO NEW TAXES so they can't do this.
Liberals don't seem to understand that when the government puts money in one of your hands they are taking it (money) out of your other hand...and that goes for both parties...
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Although I am against new taxes, am for states' rights, and am in support of lowering taxes in general, I think this is a good idea. To be more specific - I only think it's a good idea IF it is about collecting state taxes that are already technically required to be paid...NOT if it proposes any form of new taxation, especially federal.

If a state has already imposed a sales tax, people shouldn't be permitted to circumvent it by buying everything online.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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Should this Internet Sales Tax pass Congress, and it will with the left-wing liberals (Democrats) running Congress, IMO, this will put a serious hurt on Internet commerce, especially for the small to medium sized e-tailer sites. There is the direct effect of the tax on sales, including shipping and handling , but also the indirect cost of acquiring the necessary software to collect, record and maintain taxing records and revenue. I just don't get it how the a-holes that run the government always manage to pluck and cook a Golden Goose with their greed and "Tax anything that's taxable, including our corpses" philosophy of draining the pig dry.

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This is part of the Constitution.

Section. 9.

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

I'm not 100% sure what it means but it sounds like they cannot collect a sales tax on anything going from one state to another.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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Sen. Mike Enzi's sponsorship of the Internet Sales Tax Bill is contrary to his voting history and ideology. Why he would sponsor a tax bill as a Senator from Wyoming, which is strongly conservative, has a low population density and is self-reliant, is beyond me.

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I don't know either. It doesn't make sense. Maybe there is money behind this bill for him, but I am not seeing what sort of lobbyist group would benefit from this sort of legislature.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Although I am against new taxes, am for states' rights, and am in support of lowering taxes in general, I think this is a good idea. To be more specific - I only think it's a good idea IF it is about collecting state taxes that are already technically required to be paid...NOT if it proposes any form of new taxation, especially federal.

If a state has already imposed a sales tax, people shouldn't be permitted to circumvent it by buying everything online.
I'm in Texas and if I buy something online from a Texas company I have to pay sales tax.

Many small companies will be impacted by this with an additional burden. It won't be small by anymeans and I'll bet they'd rather close their e-Commerce site than have to fill out tax forms and calculate tax for 49 other states besides themselves. Unless, of course, this is a brand new "Federal" type of tax in which case I will stop shopping online.
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm in Texas and if I buy something online from a Texas company I have to pay sales tax.
Yes, I've had to pay sales taxes when making purchases online myself. But sometimes I haven't had to. Probably because, as you mentioned, it depends on where the company is physically located. Hopefully this law will correct the discrepancies. I do support enforcement of existing taxes.

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Many small companies will be impacted by this with an additional burden. It won't be small by anymeans and I'll bet they'd rather close their e-Commerce site than have to fill out tax forms and calculate tax for 49 other states besides themselves. Unless, of course, this is a brand new "Federal" type of tax in which case I will stop shopping online.
I agree with this. Especially with the part I bolded.
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Old 04-19-2009, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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Liberals don't seem to understand that when the government puts money in one of your hands they are taking it (money) out of your other hand...and that goes for both parties...
As I quickly learned when I started collecting Social Security Retirement Benefits at age 62, what the government gives you in one hand, they take from you in the the other hand. It's like three card Monty and the the recipient of the government benefits always loses!
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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I'm in Texas and if I buy something online from a Texas company I have to pay sales tax.

Many small companies will be impacted by this with an additional burden. It won't be small by anymeans and I'll bet they'd rather close their e-Commerce site than have to fill out tax forms and calculate tax for 49 other states besides themselves. Unless, of course, this is a brand new "Federal" type of tax in which case I will stop shopping online.
I can see one positive outcome from this Internet Sales Tax, the proliferation of companies that will support online sites with the proper collection, accounting and retention of collected sales tax. Most small to medium online sales sites will not have the financial or technical wherewithal to comply with the interstate and intrastate collection and accounting of sales taxes. But for a flat fee or percentage of gross revenue, there will be services available to provide the necessary collection and accounting processes. Hey, Barama and the "tax and spend" Congress are stimulating the economy with new opportunities for tax collection! This should make the Socialists in the government proud and kiss their photo of Barama and Hugo Chavez exchanging a hearty handshake and gazing into each other's eyes at the Summit of the Americas in PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad this weekend.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:44 AM
 
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I don't object to an internet sales tax IF it is simple to implement. We have an online business, and currently collect sales tax only for our own state. I have no idea of the rules for other states' sales tax collections, nor do I wish to be required to educate myself on them. There are far too many taxing entities out there.

I'm trying to think how this could be viable. Obviously, it would be impossible for small businesses like mine to calculate individual state and local taxes for the whole country, so a flat sales tax could make sense. But, then, what about distribution? How much would this tax be? Would states that currently have no sales tax be clamoring for a piece of this pie?

Another way that would make sense, possibly, is to collect sales tax for the locale of the business, since that area is providing all of the social support for the business (infrastructure, etc.). So, since my business is in Arizona, I would simply collect Arizona sales tax on every item I sold, regardless of where it was located. This, of course, would put high sales tax states at a disadvantage, unless they implemented a lower sales tax rate for internet purchases.

Opinions? Ideas?

ETA: I'm hoping for an adult conversation here. The name-calling and ridiculing is really getting out of hand; I thought I'd left junior high 30 years ago.
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