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Old 04-19-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Nice try, but attempting to depict the individuals who first rejected the even a constitutional monarchy as conservatives is to bastardized the term in the extreme. You also might note how these gentlemen dealt with the first attempts at nullification, rebellion against taxation and secession.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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They were actually were liberals and frequently spoke about liberal values.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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They were actually were liberals and frequently spoke about liberal values.
The change happens when liberalization happens and civilization is formed. The conservation is holding on to that idea. Continual liberalization of that idea eventually leads to something those original liberators never intended.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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The change happens when liberalization happens and civilization is formed. The conservation is holding on to that idea. Continual liberalization of that idea eventually leads to something those original liberators never intended.
You seem to be of the opinion that civilization doesn't exist prior to liberalization, a rather faulty premise.

As for continual liberalization... what a 18th Century reformer can foretell the evolution of society 100 much less 200 years into the future and who can argue with any degree of certainty that what someone dead for 200 years would approve of or disapprove of.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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They were actually were liberals and frequently spoke about liberal values.
You are exactly right, Classic liberalism, is todays Libertarian/Conservatism! Our founding fathers would be disgusted and appalled at todays Liberalism/ Socialism and their lust for overreaching federal control of our daily lives.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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You are exactly right, Classic liberalism, is todays Libertarian/Conservatism! Our founding fathers would be disgusted and appalled at todays Liberalism/ Socialism and their lust for overreaching federal control of our daily lives.
They'd also be fascinated at how we enjoy much more control of our own daily lives than the average citizen of the 18th century. We've obviously been doing something right.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:42 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Lol, sure is a lot of extremist threads popping up. 'Right wing' extremist seems to be the label of the moment. Doesn't seem to take much to be tagged as one either. Just disagree with a radical leftist on one issue and it can earn you the dreaded 'extremist' or worse yet 'neocon extremist' monicker. There has beemn violent extremism in this country for a long time. Whenever the government and the blind followers of the same have an agenda to push they call for this or that 'control' 'ban' or 'regulation' in the name of curbing it. The 60's was all about quelling the violent protests, campus burning, drug use etc so here came the laws and new government powers, now the tables have turned, and it's all about 'gun control', 'right wing radical groups', anti government this and that, racism etc etc. So the govenment and it's new breed of blind followers are grinding a new ax. So whats changed? The 'right' is the new 'threat' instead of the 'left'? A turd, by any other name is still a turd...............
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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They were actually were liberals and frequently spoke about liberal values.
As opposed to neo-liberals infesting the WH and Congress today
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