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Old 01-23-2010, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No.................. it is not going to happen we have a 2 party system , thats the way it has always been and always will be.
Yes but over the course of history it's not always been the same 2 parties.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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Yes but over the course of history it's not always been the same 2 parties.
Neither of the 2 major parties is going anywhere. The pendulumn swings between the 2 of them, Obama, Pelosi and Reid, swung it hard and high to the left, so now it has an extreme amount of momentum to swing fast to the right. Obama would do well to channel his inner Bill Clinton right now, and get a little history lesson on triangulation.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Neither of the 2 major parties is going anywhere. The pendulumn swings between the 2 of them, Obama, Pelosi and Reid, swung it hard and high to the left, so now it has an extreme amount of momentum to swing fast to the right. Obama would do well to channel his inner Bill Clinton right now, and get a little history lesson on triangulation.
Excellent advice.

I'd like to see him badmouth the Supreme Court for its most recent decision to empower multi-national corporations.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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For years now, it has been often preached that the Democrats have a strong demographic advantage that threatens the Republican chances at the presidency for years to come. However, traditionally Democratic states are predicted to lose electoral votes to hardcore Republican states in the South and West.

Southern states to gain seats after 2010 census - Washington Times

And so nobody whines about the source (someone always does), here is an interesting presentation on the subject:

http://www.brookings.edu/Metro/20050505_Frey.pdf (broken link)

And please refer to the population statistics here:

Census estimates point to end of Sun Belt's population boom - USATODAY.com

The South and West are gaining more and more political power, whilst the Rust Belt and Northeast post more losses. And to those of you who feel that a few electoral points every 10 years does not matter, keep in mind that Al Gore only lost the EC by a few points. By 2030 most of the political power in the US will have shifted to the Republican states, and away from the Democrats.

Keep in mind that the Northeast and Rust Belt is not losing population, the growth is just at a sluggish ~2% compared to the Sunbelt's ~12%.

Enter the census debate; it is expected that Obama will try and change the way the census is taken. Instead of using an actual headcount, representative samples will be taken. Of course, that has not been enacted yet, but most of us here remember when Clinton tried to impose the same thing...

Anyway, if you skipped the article here is a summary of the predicated changes:

Biggest Winners:

Arizona (2)
Florida (1)
Georgia (1)
Nevada (1)
Oregon (1)
South Carolina (1)
Texas (4)
Utah (1)

Projected Losers:
Illinois (-1)
Iowa (-1)
Louisiana (-1)
Massachusetts (-1)
Michigan (-1)
Minnesota (-1)
Missouri (-1)
New Jersey (-1)
New York (-1)
Ohio (-2)
Pennsylvania (-1)

After taking significant hits, the Republican party tends to rebound via a landslide, so we'll have to see what 2010 and 2012 brings. And with the red states predicted to gain more electoral votes over the next 20 years, it could actually prove that demographics are on the Republicans' side.
It's a whole new ballgame now that corporatins and foreigners have a say in the process. If they pick someone they want in congress, then that person will win the seat, and if they want someone out, then that person is gone.

Its a new game and whichever party figures out how to play the game first will win the price. They need to start making deals with corporations and foreigners right away, because that is is going to be the name of the game, and the pathway to victory. The SC ruling was a huge blunder, but it is too late to reverse it now. It takes 3rd parties complete out of the picture.
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