VP Cheney to Obama; Bring it on - Release the reports showing .... (gallon, Taliban)
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Your first link talks about release documents which are 25 years old or older. And the article from the link is dated 2006. I think the AGE of the document is a significant element regarding our national security, don't you?
HowStuffWorks "Which secret government documents will be declassified on 12/31?"
"But in theory if not in immediate practice, what was set in motion by the Clinton administration in 1995 is coming to fruition. Executive Order 12958 declared that in 2000, every classified document 25 years of age or older would be automatically declassified unless the classifying agency had already sought and received that document's exemption (anything that could cause an "identifiable" risk to national security, would violate a person's privacy or involves more than one agency is exempt)."
So you now realize Obama can use a presidential executive order?
There is an AGE qualifier for the release of classified records.....25 years or older.
From you link above:
"a) Subject to paragraphs (b)-(e) of this section, on December 31, 2006, all classified records that (1) are more than 25 years old and (2) have been determined to have permanent historical value under title 44, United States Code, shall be automatically declassified whether or not the records have been reviewed. Subsequently, all classified records shall be automatically declassified on December 31 of the year that is 25 years from the date of its original classification, except as provided in paragraphs (b)-(e) of this section."
Where in your linked information does it say that the President can declassify any document any time he wants?
You are kidding, right? Nobody is that dense. Did you notice that one of the first things Obama did was write/create executive orders to overturn most of Bush's executive orders? It happens all the time. Do you understand now?
You know, this is NOT about transparancy. It's about national security.
No it's not. It's about embarrassing the past administration and the GOP to gain more power. It was NEVER about national security otherwise nothing would have been released.
Now that the can of worms has been partially opened (to the benefit of one party) they have to release all the information and let the public make the determination of who was right or wrong or all this looks like is another partisan attack party...
I bet Mao-Bama never expected this curve ball. I bet he's too much of a wimp to take Cheney up on his offer... Too PC, trying to appease the feminists, environmentalists, and union bosses who got him elected.
Obama is doing his best to figure out how to get out of this one. He now realizes what a mistake was made. He is like a deer in the headlights now.
The topic of discussion here is about Cheney's claims that the initial release of documents compromised our national security, and yet, then Cheney himself claims to have requested additional documents be released by the CIA!!
We are discussing CHENEY's response to the released documents, NOT whether, in fact, the President made us less safe by releasing those docuements. Try to keep up with the topic, please.
Chaney contradicts himself. First he said the release of docuements compromised our national security. THEN CHENEY calls for the release of MORE DOCUMENTS. Is Cheney just trying to save face and play politics, or did Cheney really believe the initial release of the documents put our country at risk? Which one? Saving face? Or real national security risk?
I thought we were discussing Obama's selective releasing of documents that undermine national security.
It was a summary. So of course details would be removed or left in (where are those pesky WMD......)
but in the article you posted, A spokeswoman for Admiral Blair said the lines were cut in the normal editing process of shortening an internal memo into a media statement emphasizing his concern that the public understand the context of the decisions made in the past and the fact that they followed legal orders.
Adm.Blair said “I like to think I would not have approved those methods in the past,” he wrote, “but I do not fault those who made the decisions at that time, and I will absolutely defend those who carried out the interrogations within the orders they were given.”
Which the Obama administration agreed with in not pursuing the CIA on the matter.
People have mass amnesia in forgetting that Bush was POTUS on 9/10/01.
He also had the benefit of warnings, which they did not think was dire enough to act on. These same amnesia victims forget that 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi. I have posted countless times before that after 9/11 Bush shut down the U.S. Military Base in Saudi which was the key demand of Osama bin Laden. Bush never "smoked him out of his cave" but did cave to Osama's demands. If there has not been another attempt at an attack that is most likely the reason why.
globeandmail.com: U.S. military quits Saudi Arabia (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030429.wxsaud0430/BNStory/International - broken link)
"But the U.S. pullout has sweeping political significance for Saudi-U.S. relations, which have been especially fraught since the terrorist attacks on the United States of Sept. 11, 2001. It emerged that 15 of the 19 suicide hijackers were Saudi nationals, and that there was both official and unofficial Saudi support for radical Islamic schools considered a breeding ground for anti-Western terrorists."
Funny, I don't see any mention of Iraq attacking us in the article.
Are these the same Saudis that Obama shined the boots of? Oh that is right he bowed. Or was he tying his shoes? This is so confusing!
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