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Old 06-25-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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ok. i am in the minority here. you guys think i think it is ok to search a student at anytime. i do not. go back and reread some of the things i said. i am done with this thread. i hope none of your kids are ever in this situation at school. have a good day.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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Clarence Thomas disagrees

In determining whether the search’s scope was reason-able under the Fourth Amendment, it is therefore irrele-vant whether officials suspected Redding of possessing prescription-strength Ibuprofen, nonprescription-strength Naproxen, or some harder street drug. Safford prohibited its possession on school property. Reasonable suspicionthat Redding was in possession of drugs in violation of these policies, therefore, justified a search extending to any area where small pills could be concealed. The search did not violate the Fourth Amendment.
This would then include full cavity searches as well. Yeah, I don't think so.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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i'm just saying schools should have the right to do so if it is absolutely necessary. most people here are saying it should NEVER be done.
I'm one of those folks. If the such a search is "absolutely necessary" then please by all means call in John Law, and let someone who should at the very least understand what probable cause entails and what constitutes a real threat.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Reno, Nevada
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But be upheld by Professional Authorities, not school official, and-with the parent/guardian present. Its no secret that inappropriate behaviors are evident in the school system, and by saying that-you'd think that they would want to contact the PD to conduct such a search. TO many school principals try to play God. Not all, but there are the bad apples that like that control. I am all about controling the drug issues at school, BUT searches MUST be done with the proper parties involved. NOT A SCOOL NURSE!
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Acting off a random tip about aspirin is hardly necessary. The only "necessary" situation I could possibly think of is if it is proven that the student has hard drugs somewhere on their body or some sort of weapon or such.
I still don't think the school officials should be conducting the search. Call the police and let them handle the legality of any search.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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This would then include full cavity searches as well. Yeah, I don't think so.
Not unless Thomas is ready to rule that the acts of a wrathful parent do not constitute a terrorist act, because there wouldn't be enough Maryland Farmers to prevent me from sounding like Jewels Winnfield and acting like Marsellus Wallace in the basement of a pawnshop if such a search were conducted on my child. I **** you, not.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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you are taking it too far. i agreed with the post you just agreed with also. i guess you didn't read that though huh? i'm not saying this strip search stuff should be taken lightly....i'm just saying schools should have the right to do so if it is absolutely necessary. most people here are saying it should NEVER be done.
It should never be done by school officials. It should never be done on the basis of a tip by another student and no other evidence. It should never be done without informing and acquiring consent by parents or legal guardians.

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i agree.but the student should definitely be searched.
No, not in this case or any similar case, not by the school and not by the police. They had no reason (as found by the supreme court) to suspect she had pills in her panties, only a 'tip' from another student and that they didn't find them in her back pack...that's not enough to justify a strip search for anyone.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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(as found by the supreme court)
8-1!
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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i never said "any" did i? there you go again putting crap i did not say into my mouth. you never asked me how it should be done. females should always search females and males should search males. most campuses have an officer assigned to them. the officer should do the search at all times if he/she is the same sex as the student. but, you are for just letting them get away with bringing the drugs.
So should a GAY male search a little boy and fondle his privates looking for the horrible Advil tablet? Maybe spread the cheeks a bit? After all you gotta have a good look!
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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you are taking it too far. i agreed with the post you just agreed with also. i guess you didn't read that though huh? i'm not saying this strip search stuff should be taken lightly....i'm just saying schools should have the right to do so if it is absolutely necessary. most people here are saying it should NEVER be done.
Unless you think the kid has a gun or a bomb in his rectum, it should NEVER be done.
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