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Old 04-23-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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I would rather have the child face the consequences of their actions.
Sure. Until it's YOUR daughter or son that's involved, and then it's suddenly time to "take care of it but don't tell anyone and get it done before it shows." All that crap about facing consequences is fine for all those inner city girls, but it goes out the window when it's your own kid or money at stake, then its so easy to rationalize the plan B pill or the abortion - no one will ever know....
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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your punished with a baby? you got that directly from obama. please stick to original thought.

I didn't say they should be forced to keep the baby, I said the parents should be notified. please pay attention to what I have said.
Parents being notified leads to kids not wanting to notify them and not getting the morning after pill, which leads to either pregnancy or abortion, which could be avoided with a simple OTC script ahead of time.

Gotcha.

And yes, it is being "punished" if you don't want to be pregnant and are because people decide what you should do with YOUR body.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I would rather have the child face the consequences of their actions.
So you'd rather the teen become pregnant, just to "learn a lesson"?

Sorry, that is absolutely ridiculous. You're playing games with someone else's body.

I volunteered at a clinic and the majority of the late term abortions where younger teens who were too afraid to tell their parents they were pregnant. If you are old enough to get pregnant, you are old enough to make your own decisions regarding the pregnancy.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think the second alternate is far better than the first. I also do not want the girl's parents notified unless the boy's are as well. It takes two to tango and both should get yelled at, not just one. STD's and unwanted pregnancies have always happened but now we have the technology to prevent the both. We do not have the technolology or any other way to prevent teens from having sex. I doubt we ever will.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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And then turn around and complain that their taxes are going to pay for welfare babies. Boggles the mind.
Yep, that's what the far right wants to do ... force the teens of OTHER parents into having unplanned and unwanted babies that can't be afforded ... then whine about the impacts on society and the numerous forms of welfare cost - which THEY don't want to pay for. Are they THAT stupid? Or are they just typical religious hypocrites. If the money-grubbing televangelists and their hordes of knee-jerk robots actually PAID all the COSTS of raising millions of unplanned and unaffordable kids, that would be one thing, but until they do, they need to shut up and butt out of other people's lives. Of course, as long as the money changers hiding behind a pulpit or a microphone can milk these topics for donations, we'll never hear the end of it.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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I also do not want the girl's parents notified unless the boy's are as well. It takes two to tango and both should get yelled at, not just one.

Very good point. Yet somehow it is always the girl that gets vilified.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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Today, the FDA approved the sale of the Plan B Pill to females at age 17, without a prescription or parental consent.

A step in the right direction.

A step in undoing the Bush legacy of kowtowing to the extreme religious right.

A step in nailing shut the coffin on the useless Culture War which has served only as fund raiser for a few cynical evangelical money grubbers and for politicians craving their votes.

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- The Food and Drug Administration said it was taking the action to comply with a judge's ruling last month that the agency's 2006 decision to limit availability of the contraceptive method to women 18 and older was invalid and politically motivated.


Sad, isn't it folks, that Bush and Rove played politics with the health of our young people just to suck up the votes and donations of gullible fundies. Karl Rove and George Bush should both burn in hell for this, side by side.

This would just make it that much easier for these young girls to get caught up and be more irresponsible with the lives. This is truley sad either way you look at it.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:09 AM
 
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hey, you had my reply in your reply!

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So you'd rather the teen become pregnant, just to "learn a lesson"?

Sorry, that is absolutely ridiculous. You're playing games with someone else's body.

I volunteered at a clinic and the majority of the late term abortions where younger teens who were too afraid to tell their parents they were pregnant. If you are old enough to get pregnant, you are old enough to make your own decisions regarding the pregnancy.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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I don't have a problem with that at all.

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I also do not want the girl's parents notified unless the boy's are as well. It takes two to tango and both should get yelled at, not just one.

Very good point. Yet somehow it is always the girl that gets vilified.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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your posts are very strange. at no point did anyone mention religion. what the hell are you talk about?

for the record, welfare should not exist. government shouldn't be providing charity to the weak. let them starve. it's a good way to thin out the worthless.

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Yep, that's what the far right wants to do ... force the teens of OTHER parents into having unplanned and unwanted babies that can't be afforded ... then whine about the impacts on society and the numerous forms of welfare cost - which THEY don't want to pay for. Are they THAT stupid? Or are they just typical religious hypocrites. If the money-grubbing televangelists and their hordes of knee-jerk robots actually PAID all the COSTS of raising millions of unplanned and unaffordable kids, that would be one thing, but until they do, they need to shut up and butt out of other people's lives. Of course, as long as the money changers hiding behind a pulpit or a microphone can milk these topics for donations, we'll never hear the end of it.
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